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    Peugeot's return to the USA: 2005

    It's official, Peugeot is returning to the USA by 2005, beginning with the release of the 407.

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    <a href="http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t75157-1.html" target="_blank">http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t75157-1.html</a>

    This link has some more info. <a href="http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_peugeot_may_ready/" target="_blank">http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_peugeot_may_ready/</a>

    Wooohooo! I beat PUG307 to some info for once

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    maybe those americans will start a forum similar to this then called "yankee frogs"

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    DeKa:
    It's official, Peugeot is returning to the USA by 2005, beginning with the release of the 407.
    Good on em' .. but that's BIG ONES .. entering the most protected, over import taxed and regulated auto-industries in the world - without the significant infrastructure to support the cars, is a BIG BIG call.

    And I thought it was bad enough my next nearest dealer is Adelaide !!! Will American's stand for not having "on your doorstep" type service?

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    They can't even keep up with current demand as it is. The US also has very strict standards and laws on build quality too. They can quite easily have cars refunded or replaced if there are two or so major problems with it...

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    Wonder if PSA has considered the CHINA market, or are they already there....
    Lets start YANKEE FROGS.com.us ,..... maybe not.
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    As a resident of America Junior (as they call Canada on the Simpsons) I am not too impressed with the sources of the reported return. Firstly, an auto forum? Not exactly the New York Times, is it wink The Ward's Auto Link is old, from April, and certainly does not say they're going to be here in 2005 with the 407 (though it does not rule it out either).

    I do hope they come back, but have the brains to bring their smaller cars too: soon-to-be-released 107, 206, 307...I'm not holding my breath though. They seem to think that all Yanks wanna drive a land yacht and think a 406-sized car is tiny. Maybe I'm just abnormal, but I'm going to buy a smart if they come to Canada as promised in 2004. My wife likes 'em and I do too. Small cars rule! I am not alone in thinking this either.
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    DeKa:
    It's official, Peugeot is returning to the USA by 2005, beginning with the release of the 407.

    <a href="http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t75157-1.html" target="_blank">http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t75157-1.html</a>

    This link has some more info. <a href="http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_peugeot_may_ready/" target="_blank">http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_peugeot_may_ready/</a>

    Wooohooo! I beat PUG307 to some info for once

    Derek
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    Ahwell, I guess I'll just have to outsticker you, eh Don't worry, I've got ideas wink It's big, it's from Toulouse, has more headroom than a 307, makes the 206 WRC seem slow, rides smoother than a upsy downsy Cit, doesn't need a key ala Renault, even makes the 607 seem affordable...

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    MR206:
    maybe those americans will start a forum similar to this then called "yankee frogs"
    Funny thing is, the biggest Peugeot mailing list in the world is US based - peugeot-L at Yahoo Groups.

    You'd have to be dedicated to keep running Pugs in the USA after years of no support. The American Pug owners seem like a dedicated bunch, but it's tough running cars with few parts available. Even one of the big names in Peugeot advice over there, Jim Lill, has to retire a 505 Turbo - it's too hard keeping the car running. At least he's got good taste, he's moving to a V70R

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    Pug307:
    he's moving to a V70R
    uggh tongue

    You're not supposed to mention particular turbo charged machinery in my threads. deal

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    As much as many on here refuse to accept it, I have found that many pug owners either have, have had or are interesting in buying a Volvo.
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    nJm:
    As much as many on here refuse to accept it, I have found that many pug owners either have, have had or are interesting in buying a Volvo.
    Lately there has been a whole stack of 206GTi owners going to WRX's ... It's a power thing ... gimme, gimme, gimme MORE power

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    XTC206:
    Lately there has been a whole stack of 206GTi owners going to WRX's ... It's a power thing ... gimme, gimme, gimme MORE power
    And for that we only have Peugeot to blame.

    Since they got burned with the lousy sales of the 405 X4 and T16 models, Peugeot decision-makers seem to think that 4WD cars are not saleable.

    Peugeot really should make a 4WD version of the new 307 WRC car, with at least 275 HP...but I'm not holding my breath. Thing is, though cars like this rarely make much - if any - money for the manufacturer, the publicity they provide is priceless, and it draws lots of others to the marque, hoping for the speed to rub off on that shiny new 106 GL in the showroom...
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    DeKa:
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    he's moving to a V70R
    uggh tongue

    You're not supposed to mention particular turbo charged machinery in my threads. deal

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    Hey, if it's good enough for the Pug club magazine, it's good enough for one of Derek's threads :p

    Okay, ok, next time I mention something Swedish and turbocharged, it'll be female, blonde and blue eyed wink

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    Lately there has been a whole stack of 206GTi owners going to WRX's ... It's a power thing ... gimme, gimme, gimme MORE power
    And for that we only have Peugeot to blame.

    Since they got burned with the lousy sales of the 405 X4 and T16 models, Peugeot decision-makers seem to think that 4WD cars are not saleable.

    Peugeot really should make a 4WD version of the new 307 WRC car, with at least 275 HP...but I'm not holding my breath. Thing is, though cars like this rarely make much - if any - money for the manufacturer, the publicity they provide is priceless, and it draws lots of others to the marque, hoping for the speed to rub off on that shiny new 106 GL in the showroom...
    4WD can sell - it's been one of Subaru's hallmarks for years. With the advent of Haldex technology, which provides effective, yet light and compact AWD systems, more cars are moving to 4WD.

    It's a logical step for any FWD orientated manufacturer dabbling with really serious power.

    Personally, I think turbocharging is a logical step for Peugeot. Ever seen the under bonnet space available in the latest cars - what underbonnet space? Larger engines aren't possible, but turbocharging is. I've driven quite a handful of low pressure turbos and they really do improve the driveability of an engine.

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    Hope they do better than AMC/Renault did?
    They should only bring in the biggest cars to the USA.
    Yanks love big cars... dead moon

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    danielsydney:
    Hope they do better than AMC/Renault did?
    They should only bring in the biggest cars to the USA. Yanks love big cars... dead moon
    They have to have something to sit their moon in and it's usually gotta be large !

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    Pug307:
    Okay, ok, next time I mention something Swedish and turbocharged, it'll be female, blonde and blue eyed wink
    They're old news to me tongue You're more than welcome to find more though.

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    XTC206:
    danielsydney:
    Hope they do better than AMC/Renault did?
    They should only bring in the biggest cars to the USA. Yanks love big cars... dead moon
    They have to have something to sit their moon in and it's usually gotta be large !

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    Reminds me about a service bulletin Volvo had to do in the US about heated seats. The system hadn't been designed to handle the size/weight of certain customers, resulting in some problems, sometimes involving smoke

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    danielsydney:
    Hope they do better than AMC/Renault did?
    They should only bring in the biggest cars to the USA. Yanks love big cars... dead moon
    Uhh, SOME Yanks do, many others don't.

    Yeah, the 400 lb big Jo-lenes and 475 lb Billy Bobs ain't gonna go for a "furrin" small car, but then again they ain't gonna go for any "furrin" car, no matter how lardy it is (nope, not even the, IMO, ugly and obese 607). Hell, they don't even like cars at all, a Chevy Power-Stink Diesel with duallies is their wet dream.

    Seriously, that kind of thinking pervades Peugeot in France, but it is dead wrong. Peugeot's best cars these days are their smaller ones. This has been true since the days of the 504, I think. They need the 307 + 307CC and maybe even smaller models to compete in N. America. What killed them before in the USA and Canada was their attempt to market the 405 as a BMW 3er competitor, and the 505 as a Mercedes 300E competitor. Yeah, right. The Peugeot name has zero cachet in the luxury car league, even if the 405 and 505 were good enough cars in their own right. What motivates many US buyers of such cars is brand profile and credibility, of which Peugeot had (and has) none. They need good products, moderately priced to be successful here. Will they be back by 2005? I seriously doubt it. I hope I'm wrong though.
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    Well the American exchange students that came along to one of our Aussiefrogs events certainly appreciated the 306, 206 and MY 4's Clio. They liked mine more - wouldn't get out :p

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    DeKa:
    Well the American exchange students that came along to one of our Aussiefrogs events certainly appreciated the 306, 206 and MY 4's Clio. They liked mine more - wouldn't get out :p Derek
    You shouldn't have handcuffed her to the steering wheel then :p

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    nJm:
    As much as many on here refuse to accept it, I have found that many pug owners either have, have had or are interesting in buying a Volvo.
    Doesn't mean we've always enjoyed the experience though, Nick!

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