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  1. #1
    Tadpole
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    any recommendations?

    I recently purchased a 205SI. It's my first pug and I'm really impressed, great fun to drive. Anyway, I live in Bentleigh Vic. and was wondering if anyone can recommend where to get it serviced?
    Thanx

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    Seriously, this isn't a trick question!

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    My first suggestion would be to get a manual, perhaps join the Peugeot club, and learn to do it yourself. With a bit of help from people on this board and elsewhere its really not hard to learn.

    Its very satisfying , it can save an awful lot of time waiting for the RACV, and it costs you much less money. Moreover you know exactly what has really been done on your car and what hasn't!

    Regan's in Hawthorn , of course, have been at it for a long time and really know their way around Peugeots. Can be a bit on the pricey side though. Their spare parts section are one of the most helpful around if you are looking for new parts, and generally keep a reasonable stock of items for older cars.

    A good source of second hand parts in the eastern suburbs is Pugwreck. Give Hayden a ring on 9720 7521. He will give you some leads to good "third party" repairers in your area. If you are keeping an older Pug on the road in the eastern suburbs he is someone you should know.
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    Thanks Rod, much appreciated. I understand Pugwreck also do servicing. would this be an option? BTW my 205 is a '95 with 85000 k's.

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    Mick,

    I thought i should chip in and help here even though i have not been posting for awhile.
    I own a 205 and advise you that you don't need any special peugeot mechanic or place to do your serviceing if it is out of your range.
    I have owned my 205 for over 6 years now and have been burned nearly always by a pug specialist.
    I will not be getting into naming names.
    The 205 is a very straight foward basic motor car thats what makes it great pakage from the factory.
    Just find any carefull mechanic that has pride in his work and you wont go wrong.
    I have dealt with haden many times over the phone and he has helped on many occasions early on in my ownership (so i can't see that u can go wrong with pugwrek )
    Regans have also been helpfull as mentioned above and parts r a good price even though service in the early years was expensive for instance ($200 to tell me the engine is on its way out)
    R u sure your 205 is 95 (it would be one rare car if it was)

    Murat

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    i'm pretty sure SI's were still sold in 95 in Australia.....GTIs ("classics") were discontinued in 94.....

    It's interesting to hear many people suggest servicing the cars themselves.....

    ordinarily i'd agree...up until this car i'd owned older cars with questionable service histories/milage or heavily modified engines...i used to do it all myself....

    As my 205 is still under 90,000k and has a full service history it would probably look a lil funny to continue filling the book in as "serviced by me"
    I'm not sure how much effect it has on resale value.....but personally i'd be more inclined when looking for the "best" example of a car to go for one with a service history from mechanic as opposed to one maintained by it's owner.

    I think it's a valid concern on some level at least......
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    [quote]Originally posted by DTwo:
    <strong>but personally i'd be more inclined when looking for the "best" example of a car to go for one with a service history from mechanic as opposed to one maintained by it's owner.

    I think it's a valid concern on some level at least......</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I'd have to disagree with this, both my parents and my sister have had bad experiences in recent years with their Mondeo and Civic respectively. They were charged heaps for servicing and many of the things which should have been done weren't, bolts were stripped etc. My father once found that they'd only partially drained his sump before they filled it with new oil. He found out because the engine was overfilled with oil. A friend with a 98 model Nissan Pulsar had his clutch die twice due to incorrect cable adjustment by the dealer. Basically if you want a job done properly, do it yourself.

    When I see a car with a ten year history of dealer servicing, I think geez how much stuff on this car has been neglected or butchered for 10 years? How many first week apprentices have practiced on it (while their mind is on something else)?

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    A friend recently bought one of the nicest 504s I've ridden in (extremely quiet, no rattles). It was serviced and maintained by the owner since he bought it in 1981.

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    Its a tricky one DTwo. With low mileage cars you are probably right in terms of resale, but I'm not so sure that it is necessarily the best strategy if you are a buyer.

    There are some excellent mechanics out there and there are some real drongos. You need to know something about the place that put the stamp in the book if you are going to rely on it when purchasing.

    Given a choice between a car with a book full of stamps from an unknown mechanic and a car owned and serviced by an obviously knowledgable and careing owner I'd usually go for the latter, especially if they had kept a good log book of the work actually done on the car.

    Obviously though, ones own level of knowledge etc plays a big part in making judgements about such things.

    This can apply even with new cars. On checking my wife's (then) new SEAT after one of its early major services by a major Victorian dealer I was staggered to find that spark plugs which appeared on the invoice hadn't been replaced, some fluids, also listed as having been replaced, had not been changed, even filters hadn't been replaced etc etc.

    It had a lovely looking stamp in the service book though, for any future buyer, and a bill for us for a few hundred dollars! They had to do it all again for free after a chat with the head of the Austrralian distributor, but in most cases, I suspect they would have got away with it.

    The motto I guess, if you don't do it yourself, is to take nothing at face value. At least make sure that you learn enough to check that the work claimed to have been done, really has been.

    Cheers

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    All valid points....

    dare i say there are probably more (on average) poorly maintained cars by their owners than by mechanics.....some mechanics are crap.....but i've seen plenty of dodgy home repair jobs too

    and on average....if you were to look at a private sale maintained by owner you can only check so much...within reason.....
    how do you have any idea of the owners mechanical aptitude?......mechanics are supposedly qualified (hehe i know it's a bit of a joke sometimes)and experienced, they can also be contacted and have some accountability (another joke)

    I do actually believe it makes more sense to service the car yourself (save money, know it's done right etc), if you are so inclined

    just offering some contrary opinion

    horses for courses

    we "here" probably aren't a typical demographic regarding car maintenance
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    You are quite right D2. The simple answer is that there is no simple answer!

    I've seen 504 accelerator linkage 'modifications" by home mechanics that included bottle top removers and springs so strong that they actually led to distortion of the pedal assembly!

    On the other hand I've seen plenty of Pugs serviced by "real mechanics" with water for coolant and breathers so badly blocked that the fumes pour out the dipstick instead and the like.

    The only real answer is to know as much as you can yourself, so, whatever course you take, you know its done right.

    Cheers

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    Hi Guys,

    well it's easy if they are the owner/mechanic. You see if they have another car that's a jappie or something & the car your looking at is obviosly just being driven into the ground, you know they have the "drive it till it stops" mentality. Just walk away....

    If you pull up to look at the car, and the owner has another, 5 'Pug's up the back yard, another 3 parked down the street and another couple that's he's restored himself parked in the shed under dust covers you know your on a winner. eg. If I was to sell my old CX it'd come with heaps of receipts dating back to 1992 (mostly french connection , gees he's made a fortune outa me!). It's blantantly obvious everything been upkept as it's needed to be (in my case, it's fallen off and the car will no longer go... must be fixed ).

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    I've checked the compliance plate and the date is March 94 but it's registered as a'95. I spoke to Hayden @ Pugwreck and he was really helpful recommended a mechanic who he deals with so I'll give him a try. Rod, Hayden sends his regards. He's a pretty funny guy. When I asked him how to improve my 205's performance he said to buy a GTI!
    Thanks again Rod.

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    You're most welcome, Mick. Hayden's wife is very knowledgable too by the way.

    Hope that little 205 gives you lots of fun.
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