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    .....is this the end?

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    Hey all. My 205 has the usual cracks at the top of the B pillar, but just noticed cracks in the bottom corner. The thing is, it's not just along the seams and spot welds either, there are actually small 5-7mm cracks in the side panel. These extend from the corner. I guess I could take some pics if this is unclear.

    This is not normal, is it? I am thinking something like this is beyond repair, at least at any civilised cost. Surely, if you cut some of that out, you'd compromise the structure? Any advice would be appreciated, as I have the car booked in for rear beam work. Not much point in doing that if the car folds in half in six months time.

    Just some info on where I am coming from: The car has done 235 000km, the engine, whilst old and a bit smokey off the line, is fine. I am prepared to fork out for a rebuild when the time comes. The interior is good, no tears, one dash crack, but with the usual floppy bolsters. Both front and rear suspension need work.

    I guess the question is, if this is in fact repairable (in my limited experience, I can't see how), would it be worth doing anyway, or is my 205 now a rolling parts car?

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    It may be possible to have strengthening welded inside the panels in the area (not cutting the bodywork). I don't have those cracks but was advised to have some preventative strengthening put in around there and they did something like that.

    You'd have to ask a Pug specialist to take a look / comment / quote ... but it's worth asking.
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    Cheers for that...

    Anyone else have any advice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by plasmapug
    .....is this the end?

    Hey all. My 205 has the usual cracks at the top of the B pillar, but just noticed cracks in the bottom corner. The thing is, it's not just along the seams and spot welds either, there are actually small 5-7mm cracks in the side panel. These extend from the corner.

    This is not normal, is it?

    I guess the question is, if this is in fact repairable (in my limited experience, I can't see how), would it be worth doing anyway, or is my 205 now a rolling parts car?

    Cheers,
    Pete

    This may indicate a major structural failure.
    Are the cracks getting bigger or have you just noticed them.
    Repair may be an option, but at what cost. and more

    Noooo, it is not normal.

    You could "touch-up" spray the cracks after filling with "No More Gaps" and flog the car to someone who is not a relative, (unless you donít like them).
    An interesting moral dilemma.

    I would go with the advice of 106 and get seen to by a Pug specialist, not a run of the mill panel bender.

    I have seen a 504 crack-up in a similar way, (cracks in all pillar joins and suspension attachments), this was due to extreme abuse and it ended up as parts. (yes, Jedberg, you know it was you).
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    I've only just noticed the cracks at the bottom corner, but I'm 85% sure the cracks at the top have gotten a bit bigger. It also makes this "thump/twang" sound when coming off speed bumps for example. I know my rear beam is stuffed, but I did read another post about someone having an unidentified sound under similar circumstances that may have been due to body flex.

    I'll go off to the the Pug man soon. You'll know the outcome if there's a huge ad in the part for sale section! I couldn't in good faith sell the entire car. It's probably worth more in parts anyway!

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by plasmapug
    It also makes this "thump/twang" sound when coming off speed bumps for example.

    Pete
    "thump/twang"

    This is not too bad.

    Now, a "groink/thwack"....Thats terminal...
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    Happy new year all...

    An update on the cracks.... I spoke to my mechanic this morning and he had a look. He said that the cracks are only cracks in the dodgy respray job and there is probably nothing major. He did say however that a couple of the spot welds will need attending to. Seeing as he may soon be doing a rear beam rebuild, I'm not sure if his advice comes with a conflict of interest alarm.

    I might take it out to panel beater Tony to get him to have a look. Is there any other local here willing to also take a look?

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    Can we get pics please? =D

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