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    Hey,

    Today, i saw an unusual 505, It was a series one greeny coloured sedan with an bootlid spoiler much like the "executive" model, however it was not an executive. I have now forgotten the name (model designation) and i am wondering if someone could tell me a bit more information about the car?

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    It could be a GTi.
    Did it have a sun roof?
    What kind of rims did it have?
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    It may also have been one of the diesel variants, such as the SRDT (2.2 Turbo), or the GRD (2.5 Turbo). Only the GRD had a spoiler as standard fitment.

    I have also seen some of the earlier 2 litre petrol (GR & SR) and 2.2 litre petrol STI versions retro-fitted with a bootlid spoiler. It does enhance the rear view appearance considerably.

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    Hey,

    The rims were non factory items but were of an older style.

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    I've often thought about fitting a spoiler to my GR. It does dramatically improve the rather wimpy rear end of the 505 sedan.
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    dont put a spoiler on a gr its almost as bad as people putting type r stickers on standard hondas

    leave the car as its supposed to be

    next we will have people wanting to put mi16 spoilers on standard 405s

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIMDEB
    It may also have been one of the diesel variants, such as the SRDT (2.2 Turbo), or the GRD (2.5 Turbo). Only the GRD had a spoiler as standard fitment.

    I have also seen some of the earlier 2 litre petrol (GR & SR) and 2.2 litre petrol STI versions retro-fitted with a bootlid spoiler. It does enhance the rear view appearance considerably.

    Cheers,
    Kim.
    SRDturbo is a 2.3 litre, GRD is a 2.3 litre naturally aspirated diesel, and GTDturbo is a 2.5 litre (effectively a turbo-diesel GTi).

    Anyway, it sounds like that 505 is what's known as a 505 Special Edition. Very rare, I don't think I've ever seen one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug403
    dont put a spoiler on a gr its almost as bad as people putting type r stickers on standard hondas

    leave the car as its supposed to be

    next we will have people wanting to put mi16 spoilers on standard 405s
    Not at all. It is hardly a sporty looking spoiler, it is just an 80s styling piece. If it is considered overtly sporty then it doesn't belong on any Australian delivered 505, especially a diesel! The rear of the 505 is its weakest part of its styling. The lip just makes it look a bit less wimpy.

    Do you have an issue with me fitting wider rims to my GR? All I'm planning on is moving from 14x5 to 14x5.5. Maybe I should also fit 19" chrome wheels to our Accord? Maybe I should put the badging (including the V6 and VTEC badges) from the Accord on my 505? I bet that will make it faster and give me street cred...

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    Ahhh thanks so far!

    It had a badge on the back much like the "executive" 505 badge but it didnt say "executive"

    What is the 505 special edition which was mentioned in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nJm
    Not at all. It is hardly a sporty looking spoiler, it is just an 80s styling piece. If it is considered overtly sporty then it doesn't belong on any Australian delivered 505, especially a diesel! The rear of the 505 is its weakest part of its styling. The lip just makes it look a bit less wimpy.

    Do you have an issue with me fitting wider rims to my GR? All I'm planning on is moving from 14x5 to 14x5.5. Maybe I should also fit 19" chrome wheels to our Accord? Maybe I should put the badging (including the V6 and VTEC badges) from the Accord on my 505? I bet that will make it faster and give me street cred...

    The special edition didn't have a spoiler. I think the spoiler makes the 505 look like a box, takes away those lovely lines. I reckon the best looking 505 from the outside was the 505SLI sedan, improved taillight and front end treatment without the dreaded spoiler.
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    Sorry, I got my diesel idents mixed up. Peujohn is quite correct re the GRD vs GTD. In fact, anyone with the GTD version is the owner of a quite rare model for Australia. I believe that less than a hundred were sold in this country?

    Any confirmation of actual numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug403
    next we will have people wanting to put mi16 spoilers on standard 405s
    These spoilers are already fitted to some standard 'Series 1' GR and SRi 405's from the factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS
    The special edition didn't have a spoiler. I think the spoiler makes the 505 look like a box, takes away those lovely lines. I reckon the best looking 505 from the outside was the 505SLI sedan, improved taillight and front end treatment without the dreaded spoiler.
    Graham
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    How wrong can the eye of the beholder can be.
    The 505 GTI SII is beauty on wheels, (owning one has not clouded my judgememnt in the slightest).
    I will agree with the idea, that adding bits to a cars styling that were never ment to be there, is a bit like silicone implants. You cant quite get over the concept that the origional equipment was just not good enough.

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    Nick & NJM
    Your remarks about the early 505's looking wimpish, I agree.
    When they were first released they looked very bland with their, look like everything else on the road, styling. The ordinary dash and "David Jones?" corporate interior, ugh!
    I suspect a lot of 504 owners had second thoughts about trading up.

    I go along with the fitting of a spoiler or even a later model boot if this was practical. With a set of later 5.5 mag wheels, bling, bling!
    For god's sake the old dears deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest
    Nick & NJM
    Your remarks about the early 505's looking wimpish, I agree.
    When they were first released they looked very bland with their, look like everything else on the road, styling. The ordinary dash and "David Jones?" corporate interior, ugh!
    I suspect a lot of 504 owners had second thoughts about trading up.

    I go along with the fitting of a spoiler or even a later model boot if this was practical. With a set of later 5.5 mag wheels, bling, bling!
    For god's sake the old dears deserve it.
    Whilst I don't care TOO much either way about the spoiler I must take exception to referring to the early 505 dash as ordinary. I always thought the interior treatment was fairly spectacular, in particular the low height of the dash top. Peugeot themselves considered they were taking a fairly daring step with this. The late dash is just plain ugly, a wall of plastic reminiscent of an XA Falcon, puke!
    The 405 was similar with a great early dash and steering wheel design being replaced with something very bland
    Graham

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