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    i just test drove my first mi16, it was a 1989 model, flawless exterior, slightly shoddy interior (which i understand is common) but boy did it drive. it just seemed so effortless, the dealer said it was the best driving model he'd seen, as most of the engine had been reconditioned.

    im still a long way off being able to buy one but i definately want one, just gotta be patient

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    Just remember that most would be getting very long in tooth now and in need of engine work. I'd either be looking for a very low km model and be prepared to pay the price, or find one that has good interior/exterior and spend $4K+ on a rebuild. Either way you're looking at $8-$9K.

    In particular, have a close inspection at all the rubber breather hoses. If neglected they'll be hard and cracked, causing induction leaks. Also inspect the rubber fitting between the throttle body and the air flow meter. They also go hard and crack.

    The most severe problem is corrosion of the block under the liners. Unfortunately you can't see this until its too late. So look for signs of regular servicing and coolant changes. Well serviced cars will be perfect. Avoid cars from WA as water is bad.

    The best model to look for is what I call a Series 1.5. It has the 1.9L all alloy engine, BE3 gearbox and 15" alloys.

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    I might have one with good interiror and exterio shortly for sale, at a very good price for a quick sale.
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    yeh i had a good look at the engine, the dealer is a specialist peugeot/citeron/renault guy so he knew his stuff. he got the car as a trade in and the engine was in pretty bad shape so he reconditioned most of it, it all seemed to look brand new, no wear on the hoses or anything, probably because they had been replaced

    and sorry parry, im in melbourne

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    Is there something wrong with me finding all these 405 Mi16's for under $7K? I've also found a few 405 GTi's around the same price. But being new to the frog cars and this forum, I am not sure if the Mi16 is a better car.

    I was just worried about what you said in that post above, Peter T. It kinda makes me think that if they are getting long in the tooth at this early age...are they not very reliable or around for the long haul? To me, 15 years is not really a long time for a car. And moreso, the models I am finding are 92-95 models that have no more then 180,000 kays.

    So, from that, you can see why I am alittle curious of why most of these would be getting closer to a re-build.

    I am also interested in a 405...mainly a 306 XT but I am having touble finding one in my price range. So, the 405 makes for a better deal.

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    I'm not sure what a 405 GTi is. Did you mean 205 GTi? If so, the series 3 model is a fantastic car that should hold its value well.

    As for Mi16's, I know of a few that have over 400 000km on the clock and still haven't been rebuilt. This is what you'd expect of a well serviced vehicle. Don't be put off, just make sure the car is well serviced, or be prepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT
    The best model to look for is what I call a Series 1.5. It has the 1.9L all alloy engine, BE3 gearbox and 15" alloys.
    Peter, out of curiosity, why would the 1.9L models be preferable to the series 2 2L models, inlet manifold and coil pack problems aside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyO
    Peter, out of curiosity, why would the 1.9L models be preferable to the series 2 2L models, inlet manifold and coil pack problems aside?

    Troy.
    The 2L is a lot more refined and superior engineered in many ways - engine, chassis, suspension etc. But a 1.9L is a more raw and exciting car to drive.

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    the series 2 for me feels like a soft version

    the suspension is softer than the series 1 and is almost like an SRi in ride

    the engine to me doesn't feel as responsive but that maybe the kick you get at 4500rpm in the series 1

    i also prefer the dash in the series 1 as the series 2 looks more like a camry

    each to their own but after driving both i know what i prefer

    i just wish i kept my series 1

    the one thing the series 2 had that was good is the dip in the boot profile

    much easier to get things in and out of the boot
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    mate melbourne's not that far from sydney is it?!! go on a road trip! I've also got a sorrento green mi and its a one of the nicest colours in my opinion. I travelled 800km to get mine.

    Speaking of servicing, mine is due for an oil change. what kind of oil do you recommend Peter and others? Keep in mind its probably got about 220k on the clock but I have a feeling a lot of them have been country kms as the engine still feels quite strong. I'm just theorising that perhaps a slightly higher viscosity oil may be a good idea than that of most of the synthetic/semi brands for a higher km engine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchcutter
    mate melbourne's not that far from sydney is it?!! go on a road trip! I've also got a sorrento green mi and its a one of the nicest colours in my opinion. I travelled 800km to get mine.
    I live almost 4 hours north of Brisbane & have bought a few cars in Sydney. Drive or Train to Bris, $120 Virgin Blue tp Sydney, home for tea next night; 1500 klms one way.

    Speaking of servicing, mine is due for an oil change. what kind of oil do you recommend Peter and others? Keep in mind its probably got about 220k on the clock but I have a feeling a lot of them have been country kms as the engine still feels quite strong. I'm just theorising that perhaps a slightly higher viscosity oil may be a good idea than that of most of the synthetic/semi brands for a higher km engine?
    Good idea if you have plans to replace the engine; makes it happen oh so much sooner on the 16V engine.
    Nothing thicker than a 15W40 as recommended.
    Refer to thread on oils & magnets on filters in Technical forum a week or so ago.


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    I think it's better to spend $30 on oil and change it every 5'K rather than $60 and 10'K. As Alan said, 15W40 and often. Don't forget the filter. Also budget on changing rubber breather/oil hoses if it hasn't been done while you've got the inlet manifold off.

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    I saw a few adverts in the tradingpost for 405 GTi, I guess it was either a misprint or the guys doesn't know what he's on about.

    Either way, I thought it was an actual model...forgive my lack of education on these cars. I just started to take interest in them.

    I was a keen motorcyclist a while back, till a massive accident ended my career with them. But I always had a thing for Ducati's, etc. not the Jap stuff that just got boring. As I grew up (matured) I found that horsepower wasn't everything.

    So, after driving for a few years now. I feel the same towards Jap cars too. I need something else to handle better. Regardless of lower power...because just like with the bikes, power is not everything.

    I just hope I find something nice and can get rid of current car in time so I can afford the Mi16.

    Oh, btw, I found (after hard searching) an article on the 405 Mi16 on these forums. I made it into a single PDF file, if anyone wants it, is there a way to get it stuck here as a file? I tried to upload it but its too big. Ah well

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    I travelled an entire 2 hours to get to the one I just bought.

    Its not so much the time and distance, but the place is in a hassle of a joint.

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