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    This thread is going to be about happy pug experience only...

    ahhhhhhmmmm..

    Ive got a GTI 6 on the drive, it's sunny... 50 buck's for fuel.....

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    I enjoy my Pugs too... have been doing for most of the past 39 years...

    Through rain and hail and sleet and sunshine, they get us through.

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    Well ?????? anybody else other than my mate and I...!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by J4RS
    Well ?????? anybody else other than my mate and I...!!!
    Pugs RULZ !!!!

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    You're not fooling everyone, or did you forget? .......




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    bred on pugs but early days we had fords, jags, fiats, holdens, VW's

    have a GTi-6 and a 604 in the household

    had many many other pugs

    never had any major dramas with any of them
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x 2018 3008

    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    I had a push bike then the beast.

    I like it, it sometimes like me.

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    GTi 180, 5 months, almost 10,000km including 2 Great Ocean Road trips and still smiling!

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    GTi 180 + GTi 6 on the old pacific highway (in the early hours) = bliss

    Hey that's any idea ... on board cams etc... dooin it this sat...



    www.sneekyspeeders.com may be required......

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    Default Joy of peugeot

    5 x 403
    1 x 404 wagon
    2 x 504
    2 x 504 wagon

    wouldn't recommend anything else
    couldn't recommend anything else, I've been too busy driving peugeot.

    cheers edgedweller

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    You're saying the Jag's more fun?

    I was talking to someone last night who swapped a V12 Jag coupe for a Dodge Phoenix that had been converted into a ute. I told him he probably got the better end of that deal...

    Why is anything short of a 402 Darl'Mat considered a sports car? There are Peugeot cabriolets, but nothing that's really a sports car...

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    pugz rock!

    frogs rock!

    ive had a ren, a cit, and now my pug. love them all...

    infact i love my pug so much, that she's happy at home in her kennel in this 43 degree sydney day.... washed and polished her on saturday, so thats where she stays till i go for a drive next weekend.

    all shiny and pwiddy!
    1992 mi16 1.9 litre - it's a love hate realtionship.

    whatever you do NEVER tell anyone your car is reliable. doesn't matter how much wood you touch!

    previous cars: peugeot 306xt, peugeot 205si, renault 20, renault 12 - sedan and wagon, renault 25, alfa 155 twin spark

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    i remember falling out the back of a MK10 jag once when i was a kid

    from that day on my parents wouldn't buy anything if it didn't have child locks on the back doors

    my dream has always been to have an SP250 or an alpine tiger or maybe even a bolwell nagari or a twin spinner convertable with a 302

    but i stick with reality and keep pugs

    i do know a bloke that swapped his jags for some 203's though so that evens things out a bit
    3 x '78 604 SL

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    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    The good thing about a Shag-War is that you can stick a humble Chevy in it and it will go better and use less joose...

    You can't do that with a Pug... I don't think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell
    The good thing about a Shag-War is that you can stick a humble Chevy in it and it will go better and use less joose...

    You can't do that with a Pug... I don't think...

    stick with the pre daimler/jaguar coalition daimler engine and i think you are on a winner

    that 2.5L V8 was a wonderful engine as was the last of the daimler V8's

    much better than the jag 6's that came about

    that's my
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    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by jester_fu
    You have obviously never learnt how to tune a Jaguar engine, Ray. A V8 chevvy is JUST quicker than a stock Jaguar engined XJ6 (primarily due to the weight reduction swaping to the V8), but once you reach 80km/hr, the jaguar literally walks off into the distance. I use to get 26mpg best economy out of my XJ6 after it was tuned properly. I don't know anyone that ran a Chevvy and could claim that. I'm afraid the only thingthe yanks show any engineering ability with is producing weapons. If they left vehicle design to the Europeans, we'd all be driving far superior cars. I think the technology employed in my old '76 model Jaguar was so far advanced compared to Yank tanks, they are only just beginning to catch up - for example, Holden using overhead cams!!

    wasn't it jag that had it so that if you ever wanted more power from one of their engines all you needed to do was buy an uprated head and cams ?

    the bottom ends were as tough as nails and were near indestructable
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x 2018 3008

    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    We're getting well off topic here... but this is a good path to be pursuing, when it comes to car discussions.

    I have to agree that the chassis build of the Jag was streets ahead, but the engine - even though it featured overhead cams - was a much older build than the Chev V8.

    Consider the fact that it was designed during the war (yes, Wally Hassan was drawing it up in his spare time as he listened for air raid sirens) and had the base architecture of a Morris/Wolseley/Morris Commerical engine that had been around a few years before the war... not all bad things, but it was certainly well and truly dated.

    Look at it in sports car racing... it reached its zenith at Le Mans just as the Chevy was coming on stream. And you admit to it being heavier despite the smaller swept capacity.

    I'm prepared to accept that the Jag engine might well take off and leave the Chevy in this application once higher speeds are reached, European engines tend to do this. And I don't dispute that you got 26mpg.

    But most people have found that they got better performance all round with the Chevy. One I saw had a Ford (...did you just spew?) 302 in it and the owner was delighted.

    For myself, I would prefer a more euro-designed engine and I think that 'rambo's suggestion of a 4.5 Daimler might be right... except for the weight, perhaps?

    The 2.5 Daimler was just like two Renault Gordini 1300s joined together, but I suspect without some of the strength in those. And what a nightmare they were in the Daimler sedans!

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    I think one of the small Daimler V/8's found it's way into a 203 many years ago, and the Geoghegan's had success with the Dart.

    Graham Lewis ( doing my bit to keep it off topic)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Lewis
    I think one of the small Daimler V/8's found it's way into a 203 many years ago, and the Geoghegan's had success with the Dart.

    Graham Lewis ( doing my bit to keep it off topic)

    this would be the one you are speaking of

    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x 2018 3008

    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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    Could well be the one Rambo, allthough Neil Dickie mentions that several were modified in this way, which was news to me, but Neil would know he has his finger on the pulse, interesting page that, quite a few familiar names from 203 circles.

    Graham Lewis

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    That car has been treated badly since I last saw it, 'rambo...

    But then again, that was during the construction phase!

    jester... I think you underestimate the American approach. You give them kudos for being able to improve the quality of materials, but you neglect the fact that their production standards must be very high as well.

    Additionally, the Chevy has been in production since 1955. In that time it has been upgraded in various ways, particularly when it's needed it because of a capacity increase. If it couldn't be upgraded, then you might be able to say that the design was inferior... compare the Ford V8 story, for instance.

    The Y-block came out in 1954, just a year ahead of the Chevy, but it was gone by 1965. It had to be replaced because the Chevy was eating it alive... and then it took advantage of production techniques that were brand new in the early sixties.

    I take your word for it that a production XJ6 might have the kind of performance that might stop someone putting in a V8... I accepted that earlier... but there are still severe limitations to that engine. Mostly based on its design age.

    Weight of those long con-rods, for instance, the restrictions of the head design, even in the competition heads. Bulk is against it all the way, and weight you have mentioned yourself.

    There are not many developments in engines that don't filter through to the American production line... look at the Vega engine, for instance, with an alloy block and no liners. Look at the Lincoln OHC V8 that will drive itself home without water by alternating firing to individual cylinders.

    And look at production costs... something Jaguar has always prided itself on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jester_fu
    Nooo... Pugz suck. Period. I must say i am often confused by owning a french 'sports' car, as it seems to require being treated more like a girlfriend or wife than a car. It just get sooooo demanding at times... car in one ear. GF in the other...
    nice...very nice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by enthused!
    pugz rock!

    frogs rock!

    ive had a ren, a cit, and now my pug. love them all...

    infact i love my pug so much, that she's happy at home in her kennel in this 43 degree sydney day.... washed and polished her on saturday, so thats where she stays till i go for a drive next weekend.

    all shiny and pwiddy!

    I luved my R5 GT Turbo.... 205 gti's arch enemy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jester_fu
    I'm afraid the only thingthe yanks show any engineering ability with is producing weapons. If they left vehicle design to the Europeans, we'd all be driving far superior cars.
    Take the long way home....

    - 306 gti6

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    this would be the one you are speaking of

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    so what happened to the one in the pic, was it restored or is it still sitting there??????


    first pug the 180 and i dont think i see myself going beck to the falcodores
    14500km in 5 months and still love it

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    I love my first pug 306 style,thanks to my brother who say befor you buy anything look at the pugs


    and now i`m in love with my 180 i`ve had it now for 7months with 10,700kms i love it always a big went i get in it
    97`black 306 style sold JFN 306
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    I HATE V8 LANDCRUISERS


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