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    New to the world of Peugeot. Currently I have an unfinished Subaru in the shed and catch the bus. I'm interested in moving to a car that can run on biodiesel, and ideally it would be something with a bit of get-up-and-go (possibly to do some amateur rallying). Call it "sustainable head-turning". I've read awesome reviews of the turbo-diesel 205 (performance and economy), but I understand they weren't released in Australia.

    Wondering if anyone has any idea whether it's possible to convert a petrol 205 to diesel, say by using a 405 SRDT engine/gearbox. If it's possible, is it likely to be prohibitively expensive?

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    It should drop straight in. All those models have the same engine mounts. You'll need to use late model, 90kW GTi driveshafts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Ward
    Hi!

    New to the world of Peugeot. Currently I have an unfinished Subaru in the shed and catch the bus. I'm interested in moving to a car that can run on biodiesel, and ideally it would be something with a bit of get-up-and-go (possibly to do some amateur rallying). Call it "sustainable head-turning". I've read awesome reviews of the turbo-diesel 205 (performance and economy), but I understand they weren't released in Australia.

    Wondering if anyone has any idea whether it's possible to convert a petrol 205 to diesel, say by using a 405 SRDT engine/gearbox. If it's possible, is it likely to be prohibitively expensive?
    i know the rough location of posibly the only diesel 205 in australia. There was one which is a personal import and a guy in brisbane owns it, not sure that its a turbo though. Aparently the 205 turbo diesel engine was a bit of a pig from the loose information i've heard though. You might want to consider a 405 SRDT or something like that (if space permits)
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    Would you need to change any of the fuel line components, such as fuel tank???
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUG309
    Would you need to change any of the fuel line components, such as fuel tank???
    not sure on that, the one i was talking about was an actual import from the UK i beleive and was sold originally as a diesel (no modfications). i would asume though that you wouldn't want to mix petrol with diesel so you would at least want to clean the tank out fairly well

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    you can get the tank acid cleaned for about $60.

    i actually posed this question about a week and a half ago. i was looking at basically putting the front of a 405 SRTD (mechanicals) in a little 205. i reckon it would be an incredibly economical car with loads of torque and power to burn.

    i you go ahead with this i would love to see some photos and hear some feedback.

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    Sounds like that could be an interesting project for the 405srdt gearbox, driveshafts struts etc that I have in the shed, not to mention the 405 diesel tank electrics, and even the dash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3006882
    you can get the tank acid cleaned for about $60.

    don't do it

    you will have more troubles than it's worth

    just clean the tank out and then plumb it if needed and use it

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    what is the problem with acid cleaning tanks?

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    Hey,

    It seems like quite an interesting idea!

    Could anyone tell me the specs of the 405 srdt motor?

    Can the engline be eaisily modified to kick out more power?

    How much would a 405 SRDT motor cost with low kays or a rebuild?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STALLED
    Hey,

    It seems like quite an interesting idea!

    Could anyone tell me the specs of the 405 srdt motor?

    Can the engline be eaisily modified to kick out more power?

    How much would a 405 SaRDT motor cost with low kays or a rebuild?

    Thanks heaps froggers!

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    Engine location Front
    Cylinders 4
    Valves per cylinder 2
    Head material Aluminium alloy
    Block material Cast-iron
    Bore (mm) 83.0
    Torque (Nm) 205
    Maximum torque 205Nm @ 2250rpm
    Power (kW) 69
    Maximum power 69kW @ 4000rpm
    Compression ratio 21.8:1
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    Capacity (cm3) 1905
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    i'm sure more horse power could be gained from a welll designed front mount intercooler and runing more boost. As for the price of an SRDT engine ask a wreacker http://www.partslocator.com.au/ or you could pick up a complete donor SRDT with everything you need for about $6000

    the 306 XRDT is also similairly powerd, With 67 kW of power and 201 Nm of torque, and im sure you could find one fairly cheaply

    or there is always the 2.0 306 HDi if you could find one cheaply that delivers 67 kW with 211 Nm of torque at only 1900 rpm

    keep in mind i beleive that the XRDT, HDi and SRDT are cast iron blocks, which would probably affect the handeling

    you could probably have comparable power to a 1.6l 205 GTI which had 75 to 85kw, but you would have a lot more torque and a lot more power down low
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    Thanks for the input! I'm getting excited...

    Does anyone know a mechanic who would have the know-how to take on a project like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3006882
    what is the problem with acid cleaning tanks?

    every tank i have known to be acid cleaned has caused nothing but trouble clogging filters for months down the track

    for some reason once they are acid cleaned they keep on releasing junk when they are in use

    my experience tells me not to do it as i have never seen one be right afterwards and i have seen many a tank done
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    pugrambo,
    thats really comforting to know now after i have had my tank acid cleaned.

    i expected to require regular filter changes for a while as there would be excessive gunk coming out of the tank, but i didn't expect it to last for that long.

    ahh well, mabey i will be the lucky one?

    bwaaaaaaaa hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    better stock up on filters then.

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    (orestes) "i know the rough location of posibly the only diesel 205 in australia."
    Actually there are several 205 diesels in Brisbane. I bought mine thinking I'd be unique, but my mechanic shattered my illusions. He knows of at least four, and has at least two as clients.
    Brisbane's a funny place.

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    So does anyone have a rough idea of prices? Like, how much it would cost to buy a suitable 205, buy a 405 engine and do the swap (assuming all work would be outsourced).

    The 306 HDi sounds like a comparable option - what would you expect to pay for one of those? And would it compare to the 406 TD?

    Merry Christmas to you all, by the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Ward
    So does anyone have a rough idea of prices? Like, how much it would cost to buy a suitable 205, buy a 405 engine and do the swap (assuming all work would be outsourced).

    The 306 HDi sounds like a comparable option - what would you expect to pay for one of those? And would it compare to the 406 TD?

    Merry Christmas to you all, by the way!
    you should be able to pick up an XRDT for a reasonable price if you can't find a HDi and you're not after the very last of the 306's... there is also a HDi in the vic trading post for $19,990

    MAKE/MODEL: Peugeot 306 HDI
    YEAR: 2001
    PRICE: $19,990.00
    BODY: sedan
    COLOUR: White
    TRANSMISSION: manual
    REGO NUMBER: QTB-582
    full electrics, sought after, super economical diesel, immaculateair con, airbags, pwr steer, service books.
    STATE: VIC
    SOURCE: Dealer Online Ads (Melbourne Trading Post)

    DEALER: Graham Birrell Motors
    DEALER ID: 4239
    PHONE: 0398903675
    ADDRESS: 99 Union Road
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