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    Hi Fellas

    Just had a look at the oil dipstick in my car and it seems that the oil level is about half way. All i did is, move the car. So the engine ran for 2 minutes and I let it cool down for an hour. I have done about 6500 kliks and it concerns me.

    I plan to have a look at it tommorow arvo at work where there is a flat level place to work from.

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    Has anyone had any wierd oil consumption probems with their car?
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    Oil consumption isn't unusual on a new engine. Also, oil consumption on the previous family of Peugeot engines was quite normal. Nothing to be concerned about.

    However, not sure about the current crop of engines. Check your manual as the 306 had an item that confirmed that oil usage was normal.

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    Peugeot.com.au doesn't have anything that I can find, but Peugeot.co.uk says:

    " At up to 0.5 litre of oil per 600 miles, Peugeot regards the engine as operating normally. "

    That's almost the same as the 500ml per 1000km that my 306 says in its manual.

    I'd be interested to know if anything is different for the current generation EW family of engines though
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    I had a rear main oil seal start leaking on my MY02 GTi. It wasnt a massive leak - not really noticible on the dipstick but when I got under the car I noticed a trace of oil around the flywheel inspection hole - Got it all fixed up under warranty.

    I asked around at the time and no one had had any troubles with something like this before. But it may give you a starting point to look at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_karma
    I plan to have a look at it tommorow arvo at work where there is a flat level place to work from.

    Has anyone had any wierd oil consumption probems with their car?
    What about the electronic oil level indicator that comes on whenever you start the car? It stays on for 5 secs - did it used to indicate full and now it doesn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_karma
    Hi Fellas

    Just had a look at the oil dipstick in my car and it seems that the oil level is about half way. All i did is, move the car. So the engine ran for 2 minutes and I let it cool down for an hour. I have done about 6500 kliks and it concerns me.

    I plan to have a look at it tommorow arvo at work where there is a flat level place to work from.

    Has anyone had any wierd oil consumption probems with their car?
    Jim, are you sure you know how to use a dipstick? If not, ask Pete to help you? heheh *ducks*

    By halfway, I'm assuming you mean halfway between the low and high level on the stick. I wouldn't be overly concerned either. As Linc just said, it is a new engine and of the amount lost, most of it was probably burnt during the initial run in when everything is just starting to seal nicely.

    Derek, yeah I noticed the manual for the 306 states 500 mL per 5000 km, but mine doesn't seem to use ANY oil (within the 5000 km intervals I use). Kinda concerns me, though I'm probably just being way too pedantic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jastanis
    Jim, are you sure you know how to use a dipstick? If not, ask Pete to help you? heheh *ducks*

    By halfway, I'm assuming you mean halfway between the low and high level on the stick. I wouldn't be overly concerned either. As Linc just said, it is a new engine and of the amount lost, most of it was probably burnt during the initial run in when everything is just starting to seal nicely.

    Derek, yeah I noticed the manual for the 306 states 500 mL per 5000 km, but mine doesn't seem to use ANY oil (within the 5000 km intervals I use). Kinda concerns me, though I'm probably just being way too pedantic.
    Yeah, my old 6 doesn't use oil either. It's kinda freaky as the engine is designed to use oil to help lubricate the valves.

    Half way between the dipstick points is around 500ml. My ST was at that level on the weekend, so I threw in a bit of Neo in there. It's due for a service in 3000km anyway.

    Yep, that's 12,000 since February/March.... hehe
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    Ive got an oil Gripe

    Why does the 180 need " 5.3" litres of Oil

    Has anyone else noticed that Oil only comes in 5 litres....

    I just changed mine over the weekend, used mobil 1 super synth at $65 a pop for 5 litres

    The oil indicator on start up is short 1 bar thingy and i will have to now spend another $65 for just 0.3 litres...

    I know i can use it for next time but its just plain annoying
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    You can get Mobil 1 Supersyn in 1L bottles.

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    Whats worse is the Elf Excellium... 4L bottles!!! ARGH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI124
    You can get Mobil 1 Supersyn in 1L bottles.
    Really???

    Ive went to 4 auto stores over that weekend to locate it... ie supercheap, auto one, kmart etc

    Maybe you could assist in where i could get it

    thanks in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by qd180
    Really???

    Ive went to 4 auto stores over that weekend to locate it... ie supercheap, auto one, kmart etc

    Maybe you could assist in where i could get it

    thanks in advance
    I've seen 1L Supersyn bottles. Have you tried a Mobil Service Station?

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    Not yet but will do will this aftetnoon...



    Only downside i guess is paying petrol station prices
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    Quote Originally Posted by nate
    Whats worse is the Elf Excellium... 4L bottles!!! ARGH!

    Hehe its sweet if your engine only takes 4lt

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    Quote Originally Posted by qd180
    Not yet but will do will this aftetnoon...
    That's where they sell 'em. 5W50, 0W40, 10W30. Last time I looked my local one had scads of the stuff in 1L bottles although the 2 Autobarns I checked (Auburn and Villawood) both sold 1L bottles, but not the one I wanted.

    It certainly does take a lot of oil compared to others (the 138 included), mine ended up drinking just over 5.5 litres. My old 306 XT took exactly 5L from memory.
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    Hi fellas

    Had a look at it today after work on flat level ground after it had cooled down for 8 hours. The dipstick seems to about 80% full (measuring for bottom notch to the top notch of the dipstick). Funny enough though the reading from the dashboard is full, so I guess it's alright. I am going to keep an eye on it from time to time until 10,000 kay service.

    Thanks for your input fellas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_karma
    Hi fellas

    Had a look at it today after work on flat level ground after it had cooled down for 8 hours. The dipstick seems to about 80% full (measuring for bottom notch to the top notch of the dipstick). Funny enough though the reading from the dashboard is full, so I guess it's alright. I am going to keep an eye on it from time to time until 10,000 kay service.

    Thanks for your input fellas!
    Don't you check oil with a warm engine? My Ford manual says that, what does the Pug manual say? I'm assming nothing of the sort, my 306 one was very brief indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI124
    Don't you check oil with a warm engine? My Ford manual says that, what does the Pug manual say? I'm assming nothing of the sort, my 306 one was very brief indeed!
    I'll check it tommorow but from what I remember it should be measured cold. Does anyone have any info contradicting this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_karma
    I'll check it tommorow but from what I remember it should be measured cold. Does anyone have any info contradicting this?
    Yeah, I'm curious as to what the Pug manual says. The Fords says to check on a warm engine, I think it says to let it sit for a bit, but nothing like 8 hours. On level ground, of course.

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    my falcon has an notch on the dippo for both warm and cold. havnt checked my 180 yet, but yeah I have always assumed most cars to be warm checks, would love to know if this is not the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey
    my falcon has an notch on the dippo for both warm and cold. havnt checked my 180 yet, but yeah I have always assumed most cars to be warm checks, would love to know if this is not the case?


    surprised they aren't like a real tractor and have an engine running level on the stick as well

    seriously though you should give the oil enough time after the engine has stopped to alow the oil to return to the sump to obtain an accurate reading whether the oil be warm or cold

    it is best though to drain oil when it is warm and it has mostly drained to the sump
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI124
    Yeah, I'm curious as to what the Pug manual says. The Fords says to check on a warm engine, I think it says to let it sit for a bit, but nothing like 8 hours. On level ground, of course.
    The 306 says to check on a cold engine. That's odd that it's meant to be checked on a warm engine for the Focus. I would've thought the most accurate reading is on a cold engine because that's when all the oil is sitting in the sump. Otherwise most of the oil is being circulated around. They must have a different way of measuring it instead of a stick directly into the sump??
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    maybe its the same for all fords?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI124
    Yeah, I'm curious as to what the Pug manual says. The Fords says to check on a warm engine, I think it says to let it sit for a bit, but nothing like 8 hours. On level ground, of course.
    For info,

    My manual says, check it when cold, on level ground, using either the electronic indicator or the dipstick (I finally remembered to look at the book this morning). It also has the "0.5L per 600 miles (1000km)" statement in it about consumption.
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    Haha,

    Without a doubt, Jester. I would indeed be very upset if my car was using any oil (it's only got 9,500km on it after all)
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