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    Hi, I have recently been having some problems with my gti s2. It looks like the engine has had it. I was wondering what you guys would recommend me doing. I have about 2-3k to spend. Are there any places to pick up a good 205 engine? Or are there other engines i should look for? Should I just get the engnine i have reconditioned and rebuilt? Any other ideas? Any help is greatly appreciated. Also what would be the best place to get my peugeot looked at in Melbourne? I have been to a few places but would like someone who knows about my car specifically. Thanx heaps!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AEA
    Hi, I have recently been having some problems with my gti s2. It looks like the engine has had it. I was wondering what you guys would recommend me doing. I have about 2-3k to spend. Are there any places to pick up a good 205 engine? Or are there other engines i should look for? Should I just get the engnine i have reconditioned and rebuilt? Any other ideas? Any help is greatly appreciated. Also what would be the best place to get my peugeot looked at in Melbourne? I have been to a few places but would like someone who knows about my car specifically. Thanx heaps!!
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    An early 405 motor (L Jetronic) is very similar and should fit without problems. You should be able to get one of these for around $1000 I would think.
    The Citroen BX TRI 1.9 has the same motor as the early GTI.
    Try Justin Fisher Automotive in Deepdene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEA
    Hi, I have recently been having some problems with my gti s2. It looks like the engine has had it.
    I think you need to be more analytical about what's wrong. Has it had a compression test, in order to determine ring or valve problems? Are there big end noises, indicating bearing problems?

    Until you know the full story, it's hard to make judgement. You may just need a good head job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT
    I think you need to be more analytical about what's wrong. Has it had a compression test, in order to determine ring or valve problems? Are there big end noises, indicating bearing problems?

    Until you know the full story, it's hard to make judgement. You may just need a good head job.

    Ain't that the truth; I recently heard of a car I knew that was "diagnosed" as needing a new motor when, knowing the car and the problem, I knew it only needed a carby clean out & a new fuel filter.
    Start with a fresh slate, an open mind, as these things aren't prone to worn out engines as much as they are to wrong diagnosis.


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    Yeah mate, how do u know the engine's had it? are u just going by sounds the engine is making, or have u had someone who really knows what they're doing look at it? In my experience, these engines are quite tough and it does take alot to completely stuff them.... Depending on what the symptoms are, there may be a relatively simple explanation for your problem and you may not have to spend that much to fix it. Let us know what the engine is doing!
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    Icon10 sounds like a good oppurtunity 4 a 205 beast!

    hey what an oppurtunity awaits you.

    -well u can make a very tidy 8v engine (cheap to pickup) - don't tell ur insurance company, although u didn't hear that from me don't have to get engineer certificates or RTA stuff (don't think?) start $1k? mods + $2K?
    or
    -find a 16v engine - mi16, S16, GTi6 (think Tasmanian dude "Goat"). start organsing the other bits and pieces. do a search for 'neil416' with his mi16 conversion. he list a number of things for this, from memory - start $3.5K
    need RTA stuff, not to much of a big deal though, anyone?

    but first find out whats up with urs? what kms is the engine? usually they last a long time. bottom usually can go upto 400kms no rebuild, well some say. what year and series is ur 205? what cond. is the shell in? my mate had a head gasket blow, can't remeber exaclty what he did, must head port & polish with bigger cams cause he has 75Kw at the wheels. thats a 25% increase. and it fangs!

    -you can get the 8v engine upto about 140bhp (from discussions here and www.pumaracing.com.uk? also MYT205- search 'how to get 180-200bhp from an 8v"-keep in mind he has NOS, so he did heaps of stuff from an 1.6L) with having to put truck loads of cash in.

    -a 16v however (aussie spec mi16) has 108kw stock. uk spec mi16 & S16 116Kw, with some crazy clowns in pom land having upto 300bhp (225kw), NA!
    so you start off where the 8v finishes (ok debatable). beter power, fuel economy. but insurance. not to bad some say, 'parry' depends on your age.

    email "PeterT" (the guru) he might be flogging his 8v race engine, low kms, high output 150bhp-ish at the flywheel? easy drop in, race proven, VERY well looked after. all the mods well tested, prob the best around. he knows what he is doing. THE GURU. lets hope that sticks!

    16v engines are hard to find and costly, especially both when low kms. although a 'simple' conversion for pro's, there's a few little things that add up with this, things need upgrading and cutting down and wedging. so its "fairly" straight foward. but more costly than an 8v swop, generally speaking.

    there is lots of info to sift through here, anything u may think of, some one has most probably has done it, and if not thought it throught. pharrrr out i just saw pics of a 505 with a turbo nissan engine! so take ur time and save ur in the mean time. thats what i'm doing... by default... doh

    keep us informed, fortunatley we have nothing better to do than type about our cars! hmmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT
    You may just need a good head job.
    don't we all... don't we all

    they need a smilie with a chick... never mind.

    after reading the other responses and re-reading mine, i think i might beef up my opinon: bugger it, go 4 broke mate, just get a new car!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS
    An early 405 motor (L Jetronic) is very similar and should fit without problems. You should be able to get one of these for around $1000 I would think.
    The Citroen BX TRI 1.9 has the same motor as the early GTI.
    Try Justin Fisher Automotive in Deepdene.

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    Hey, well it has some pretty serious oil leaks, there is steam coming out of the exhaust, i have blown 3 water hoses in 1 day so there is a blockage somewhere i think, something else i cant think of at the moment. its done 380ks. Im just trying to check options in case i do need to get a new engine. its a 1989 (s2 i think). I have had someone look at it but he specialises more in american cars so i want someone who knows a 205 back to front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEA
    Hey, well it has some pretty serious oil leaks, there is steam coming out of the exhaust, i have blown 3 water hoses in 1 day so there is a blockage somewhere i think, something else i cant think of at the moment. its done 380ks. Im just trying to check options in case i do need to get a new engine. its a 1989 (s2 i think). I have had someone look at it but he specialises more in american cars so i want someone who knows a 205 back to front.
    Sounds like you need a new head gasket, new oil seals and the cooling system flushed out properly at the least.
    Although we tend to say these engines go forever 380ks is a lot, so start thinking about a full rebuild with pistons and liners or look for a low k's replacement engine. Anything below 170 000 is pretty low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEA
    Hey, well it has some pretty serious oil leaks, there is steam coming out of the exhaust, i have blown 3 water hoses in 1 day so there is a blockage somewhere i think, something else i cant think of at the moment. its done 380ks. Im just trying to check options in case i do need to get a new engine. its a 1989 (s2 i think). I have had someone look at it but he specialises more in american cars so i want someone who knows a 205 back to front.

    sounds like you are building up pressure there

    i'd pull it down and rebuild it only if you have the time to do it yourself or you have enough $$$'s to pay someone to do it otherwise look for another 2nd hand engine

    i'm in the middle of building a V6 for the 604 as when it is sitting 2 cylinders fill up with coolant and when running i have bubbles

    not to worry though as i have the time and parts to do it all on a spare i have here then i'll swap the engines out

    the only thing i have to get done outside is the heads cleaned up
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    sounds like you are building up pressure there

    i'd pull it down and rebuild it only if you have the time to do it yourself or you have enough $$$'s to pay someone to do it otherwise look for another 2nd hand engine

    i'm in the middle of building a V6 for the 604 as when it is sitting 2 cylinders fill up with coolant and when running i have bubbles

    not to worry though as i have the time and parts to do it all on a spare i have here then i'll swap the engines out

    the only thing i have to get done outside is the heads cleaned up
    I feel your pain mate, after all the work i did on my engine my copper head gasket carked it a couple of days ago, finally got the head off tonight, my 2nd and 3rd cylinder are nice and clean due to coolant injection
    Ah well, going back to a regular head gasket and all should be sweet. Not fun though as i started back at uni this week and its my daily driver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave
    I feel your pain mate, after all the work i did on my engine my copper head gasket carked it a couple of days ago,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave
    I feel your pain mate, after all the work i did on my engine my copper head gasket carked it a couple of days ago, finally got the head off tonight, my 2nd and 3rd cylinder are nice and clean due to coolant injection
    Ah well, going back to a regular head gasket and all should be sweet. Not fun though as i started back at uni this week and its my daily driver

    Dave

    it's a pain but it's something we sometimes can't avoid

    oh well i look at it this way

    the current engine has damn near 400k on it so it has done well and i had planned on a new engine for it down the track so it has come around a little sooner

    at least the car will get a new engine and i'll stick the good tranny in that i have here to replace the sad one in it then i'll run the new engine in and then water inject it again
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