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    Default My New 504Ti

    I'm writing this as many have individually asked me to give an update of the new car I bought yesterday, a 1976 Australian delivered one owner manual white 504 Ti, from country Victoria. Indicated klms are 56,750klms, which the vendor Greg suggested meant the car has traveled 156,000klms.

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    My Son and I arrived in Melbourne at 8am to be met by the owner who had trailered the car to the airport. Stopping in nearby Essendon, we unloaded the car and initial impressions were good, the car is tidy albeit has been repainted at some point. We took off at 840am on the 870klm trip home, conscious that this car has driven little to no kms in five years from when Greg acquired it from the original owner, who is now nearing her 100th Birthday.

    Headed to the Hume Freeway, the noticeable feature I immediately picked up was that off the lights this car was not at zippy as my 1980 GL, but then the higher diff ratio came to mind. In top gear on the Fwy, the higher diff was evident, as was the entire new OEM suspension setup that Greg had installed. The car drove flawlessly, without the slightest issue. We sat at 120-130kpm for the entire trip, and aside from higher RPM's than I'm used to with modern cars, everything seemed to be perfect. The ride is sublime, and road imperfections and undulations were almost undetectable, at any speed.

    Stopping at Gundagai proved that all was in fact not well, and we had lost most of the car's oil (2mm left of dipstick). After refilling with both fuel and oil (almost in equal measure!) and talking to Greg, we determined that the oil leak was most almost certainly from the failure of the oil pressure switch, a common fault i'm told. Temperature was fine, and the car still ran flawlessly. I added 46 litres of 98 fuel, with the odo reading about 450klms, suggesting there was still ~14 litres left in the tank.

    With several oil level checks along the way, we arrived home at 630 pm relieved and tired, but very happy to see a 504 in the shed. Today was no different, the car looks great in the shed, alongside the other toys (71 911T and 205GTi)

    I've called my 504 specialist friend today who intends to take the car this week with a view to going over everything. From mine and greg's description, he shared the view that 'the oil leak should not be anything major, and should be fixed in under 30minutes'. Some parts I will be looking to acquire initially include; 1) indicator mechanism, 2) wire mesh for oil filler, 3) oil pressure switch, and 4) new interior rear view mirror (as I just snapped the original attempting to clean the inner mirror).

    I'll keep you all posted.

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    Adam
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    Sounds great. Do you intend putting up some pics?

    Just one thing, I know you've probably covered this already but is it a manual or auto?

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    Hi Peter,

    Yes I will do that when time permits. Was just in the shed cleaning (and snapping) the rear view mirror. Now I need a new inner mirror!
    I edited the earlier comments and added it's a manual. I have sourced a BA7/5 and 505 Big Bore manifold. May not however install the BA7/5 though.

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    Would love to see those pics. Mine is also a 76 Ti. Enjoy it, it sounds like a good find!


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    The amount of oil consumption you describe suggests any leek should be highly visable and leeve a pool under the car.Oil pressure switch leeks are usually minor .It may be burning oil .A TI should be quicker off the mark than a carby car and fuel economy much better , around 35+ MPG

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    I'd check the timing cover crankshaft seal first. However, the source of oil leaks will be obvious after giving the engine a thorough clean down.
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    peter since ehen have they had a timing case seal

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    Maybe I should've been more careful with my terminology. Check that oil isn't leaking around where the crank comes through the timing cover.

    With one 504, after removing the timing cover, checking the oil slinger and carefully repositioning and replacing the timing cover the only way I could stop the oil leak was to fit a timing cover with fewer miles on it. This fixed the oil leak, once and for all.

    By 1980, Peugeot made 504 timing covers with a conventional, replaceable oil seal. Who knows whether it was because it proved to be a more reliable seal or just cheaper to manufacture
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    Thanks Pete & others..All will be revealed later this week.

    I will report the findings.

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    OK got an update on the car today from my specialist Pug Man.

    Was told the car is an excellent specimen;1) no rust at all, anywhere or ever, 2) the best / most original interior he can ever remember seeing, 3) front drivers side guard & rail needs work which I knew, 4) rear shocks need replacing (they are original), 5) oil leak is not yet identified, but nothing major and is not the oil pressure sender unit (degrease needed to fully identity source of leak), 6) engine and Ti injection is tight, clean, and sharp, but sparks are not good and leads incorrect, 7) I have a Ba7/5 shelved and ready to go, which will accompany a new clutch.

    In all, the car is excellent as described. Just a few issues to remedy and it's as good as new.

    Adam.

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    Adam, it must be great to get such a good report. Tis aren't exactly thick on the ground these days so there will be envious people out there. One question, why a change of gearbox? I don't know how BA7/5 ratios compare to a BA 7 so I'd be interested to learn of your thoughts.

    By the way, any chance of some pics?

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    BA7/5 will give you an overdrive in exchange for less pleasant gearshifting and probably some gear/bearing noise. The 4 speed is a much nicer gearbox.
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    Let's see some pictures!

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    My now badly rusted Sungold '73 Ti manual could be a source for some parts if they be needed. It was going when made redundant and parked up. It probably has non genuine shocks and struts. The engine ran well after a modest rebuild, save for a tick due to a lazy cam follower. It may be used in the 404 ute project - time will tell, as the ute engine runs well. It surely was a great car to drive and the brake pedal feel is still my yardstick. Had the body repair shop not done such a horrible job after a bad thump to the front right it would have been preserved. Probably 1 of my poorer decisions.
    All the best.

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    Hmmm interesting feedback about the tranny ... I actually was driving at 130 on the way home and I thought that the 4 speed was OK with the taller diff ratio. This 4 speed is silky smooth ... so it won't need to go. I might be in a situation where I have a spare BA7/5, because I'm thinking of keeping this car 100% factory original.

    Will post some photo's when I get the car back.

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    If the car has had only short runs in recent times the oil loss could be explained by evaporation of condensation in the sump. I had this experience some years ago with an Austin Healey on it's first long run in twelve months after only pottering runs which never warmed the motor properly.
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    That's an interesting but logical thought Richard.............Gee, the pond is a good thing!

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