How many Gti6s were sold in Australia
  • Register
  • Help
Page 1 of 2 12 Last
Results 1 to 25 of 28
Like Tree16Likes

Thread: How many Gti6s were sold in Australia

  1. #1
    1000+ Posts parry's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Sydney Australia
    Posts
    1,318

    Default How many Gti6s were sold in Australia

    With prices of 205s going so high, s the Gti6 the next Pug to climb in value?

    Advertisement
    90 205 Gti Cherry Red(Track Car)
    2009 207gti
    1985 505gti (Shitbox Rally) Sold

    PBs:

    Oran Park: 1:27:9
    Wakefield: 1:05.6 (July 2015)
    Eastern Creek: 1:54 (8v) 1:48 (16V)
    Mt Huntley: 34.44 (2004 stock 205)
    Ringwood: 35.06 (30/10/2005)
    Winton: 1:33.6 (2017)

  2. #2
    1000+ Posts N5GTi6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    1,084

    Default

    Surely it's just the rare few mint 205's that are actually worth any money. With the same respect, I'd imagine it'll only be the rare few 6's that will be worth serious money. From memory I paid $43K for my '6' back in '99 - how long before they're worth the purchase cost ?

    Cheers

    Justin
    '07 C3 Exclusive
    '10 308 Sportium Touring
    '12 Megane RS265 8:08

  3. #3
    Fellow Frogger! Wintermute's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    862

    Default

    The S16 should come in before the gti6 Only roughly 300 S16's were sold in Aus, I'd guess that the 6's would have been a few more, but maybe not a lot more. The number of either S16's or GTi6's still on the road must be a lot less than originally sold by now though.

    The S16 was max $1500 on redbook for a long time, but now showing max $2400. Mine will be Vintage in another 6 years time (if it lasts that long). That is usually the point when values start to change. But yes, they will need to be in very good condition (and non-modified) to command a high price.

    Tony.
    Greencoupe likes this.
    306 S16 1995 black
    Morris 1100 1965 green

  4. #4
    Fellow Frogger!
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    864

    Default

    I'd argue the phase 2 306's are rightfully a lot more popular, the GTi6 will always be worth more than S16. The 6 speed gearbox is a big factor, as is the updated styling.
    Still, as they run out and those who have childhood nostalgia for them start to earn real money. they should all start to slowly climb
    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute View Post
    The S16 should come in before the gti6
    206 GTi 180 - '804 Cat Cams, Jenvey DBW 48mm ITB's, Emtron KV8 ECU, HP Electronik PDM, AIM MXS Dash, Custom Wiring Harness. AST Camber Tops & Coilovers, -2deg camber hubs by Frogstomp Racing, 24mm Torsion Bars, AP Racing brakes, PeugeotSport Baffled Sump, Oil cooler, Quaife LSD, E85.

    Sandown - 1:31.5
    Winton - 1:40.2
    Wakefield - 1:13.5
    Phillip Island - 1:55.9
    Nürburgring - 10:23.ish (Fiesta ST)

    Previously, 2x 504 Wagon, 505 Wagon, 505 STi, 405.

  5. #5
    1000+ Posts PeterT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2000
    Location
    Castle Hill, Sydney
    Posts
    7,317

    Default

    I thought 120 GTi6 were sold in Aus.

    '92 205 Mi16
    '90 Mi16x4

  6. #6
    Fellow Frogger!
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    410

    Default

    I heard off another Frogger a few years back that it was a hair over 300.
    2000 306 GTi6 'Josie'

  7. #7
    Fellow Frogger! FedGrapes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Perth, WA
    Posts
    828

    Default

    There isn't a lot of intrinsic value; it's mostly nostalgia. The 306 didn't have the same impact as the 205; it'll likely never reach 205 prices.

  8. #8
    Fellow Frogger!
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    864

    Default

    Yes, but can make that point about nearly any mass market car. It’s all about nostalgia and percieved value.
    I think the GTi 6 will be a sought after car, but not particularly valuable for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by FedGrapes View Post
    There isn't a lot of intrinsic value; it's mostly nostalgia. The 306 didn't have the same impact as the 205; it'll likely never reach 205 prices.
    FedGrapes and TrinityJayOne like this.
    206 GTi 180 - '804 Cat Cams, Jenvey DBW 48mm ITB's, Emtron KV8 ECU, HP Electronik PDM, AIM MXS Dash, Custom Wiring Harness. AST Camber Tops & Coilovers, -2deg camber hubs by Frogstomp Racing, 24mm Torsion Bars, AP Racing brakes, PeugeotSport Baffled Sump, Oil cooler, Quaife LSD, E85.

    Sandown - 1:31.5
    Winton - 1:40.2
    Wakefield - 1:13.5
    Phillip Island - 1:55.9
    Nürburgring - 10:23.ish (Fiesta ST)

    Previously, 2x 504 Wagon, 505 Wagon, 505 STi, 405.

  9. #9
    Fellow Frogger! Wintermute's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    862

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by speaksgeek View Post
    I'd argue the phase 2 306's are rightfully a lot more popular, the GTi6 will always be worth more than S16. The 6 speed gearbox is a big factor, as is the updated styling.
    I've never driven a six so I don't know the difference performance wise, but personally I much prefer the styling of the S16. There is something more menacing and raw about it. The six is a bit too pretty The S16 also has somewhat of an advantage on turning circle

    The six is more refined for sure, it will be interesting to see how history treats the two performance 306's.

    BTW my winking smilie after the comment about the S16 coming in before the GTi6 didn't come out. semicolon ) doesn't work!!

    The original figures I was given for Aus delivered S16's was around 90, but someone later told me it was around 300, so I have no idea what the real figures are.

    Tony.
    FedGrapes likes this.
    306 S16 1995 black
    Morris 1100 1965 green

  10. #10
    Fellow Frogger!
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Preston, Melbourne
    Posts
    251

    Default

    Just checked UK registrations, and the numbers if S16's have fallen from 1000 to 12!

    Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
    06 Citroen C5 Estate 2.2 Hdi Auto
    95 Peugeot 306 S16
    95 Silver Xantia VSX - now deceased

  11. #11
    1000+ Posts BIGRR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    North Rocks, Sydney
    Posts
    2,318

    Default

    Polish those S16s up $$$.
    Present fleet:-
    Peugeot 93' 205 Gti 16v
    Peugeot 73' 504 Ti from new
    Peugeot 08' 407 Hdi Coupe from new

    Previous fleet:-
    Peugeot 95' 605 Sv
    Peugeot 92' 205 Gti
    Renault 72' 16TS from new
    Renault 69' 10
    Renault 71' 10s
    Renault 68' 10 from new

    "Be reasonable do it my way!"


  12. #12
    Fellow Frogger!
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    302

    Default

    I think that the gti6 will never reach the level of a good 205 GTi.

    Unfortunately for the 6 it sits in an awkward middle ground. Not as raw and legendary as a 205, not as capable (read powerful) as more modern hot hatches. The handling is good but maybe not enough to overcome the failing plastics, fading paint and saggy interior linings that even good examples will have.

    I loved my short time with a gti6 (wish I could have restored it) but my current xsi is proving to be a joy to own and drive and really does everything you need from a nostalgic warm hatchback.

  13. #13
    Fellow Frogger!
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    302

    Default

    This also makes me laugh.... It's doubled in value apparently! My old nugget, and few other forumers:

    GTI6 For Sale! 09/97 12 months NSW rego 22/11/2019

  14. #14
    Fellow Frogger! dmccurtayne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Newcastle/ central coast
    Posts
    758

    Default

    Remember at Euro tech we had one in the showroom for well over a year couldn’t shift it


    Garage C5 X7 3008 XTE
    Gone but not forgotten 206 GTI 180 306 XR SED 405 MI16 x2 505 GR xzara VTS 406 SV 206 XT Berlingo 2011 (best car ever) 306 HDI 307 XSE HDI touring
    Fix it right the first time

  15. #15
    1000+ Posts N5GTi6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    1,084

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lowpugV2 View Post
    I think that the gti6 will never reach the level of a good 205 GTi.

    Unfortunately for the 6 it sits in an awkward middle ground. Not as raw and legendary as a 205, not as capable (read powerful) as more modern hot hatches. The handling is good but maybe not enough to overcome the failing plastics, fading paint and saggy interior linings that even good examples will have.

    I loved my short time with a gti6 (wish I could have restored it) but my current xsi is proving to be a joy to own and drive and really does everything you need from a nostalgic warm hatchback.
    You and I have very different experiences of 205's and GTI6's.

    I owned a 205GTI S3 for 3 years from '96 to '99. Legendary was all I could agree on. Raw to me meant 'poor build quality'. In '99 my 205 had the plastics cracking around the sunroof and around the plenum under the windscreen. The body flexed so much the base of the 'B' pillar was pulling away from the sill. The seat bolsters were collapsing even with my knowledge of how brittle they were and how careful you had to be with them. The door seals were pealing off as they were only held on with double sided tape. The engine was as dull as a wet sponge. The air-con failed completely (the car was only 3 years old at the time) and it had the power of a victa without the character. The electrics left me stranded when a relay vibrated out of it's mount. Leaking battery acid took all the paint off the battery tray - which also contained the gearbox mount ( I removed that, had it media blasted and powder coated to prevent rust - all when it was 4 years old). I could go on and on - but yes I loved that 205 when I threw it at a corner. I'd never known lift off oversteer like that in the wet !

    By contrast, the GTi6 was a gem. I owned that for 13 years from '99 to 2012. No plastics failed, the paint was mint even when I sold it, the air-con was still icy cold, and after warming at the start of a drive that xu10j4rs went to the redline on every drive, and again, and again....mmmmmm yum. Handling was a dream and so controllable it was ridiculous. First FWD car I've owned where you could drift it on a roundabout in the wet...lol. What finally made me sell it ultimately was the leaking heater matrix which seems to affect a great deal of 306's. I hear handy owners can change them in about 3 hours. Ah - the door linings came loose which I glued back on with contact cement - messy but not beyond most owners I'm sure.

    So my vote would be for the GTi6 over a 205GTi.

    Cheers

    Justin
    TrinityJayOne, Mi16 Man and moeozz like this.
    '07 C3 Exclusive
    '10 308 Sportium Touring
    '12 Megane RS265 8:08

  16. #16
    Fellow Frogger!
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    302

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by N5GTi6 View Post
    You and I have very different experiences of 205's and GTI6's.

    I owned a 205GTI S3 for 3 years from '96 to '99. Legendary was all I could agree on. Raw to me meant 'poor build quality'. In '99 my 205 had the plastics cracking around the sunroof and around the plenum under the windscreen. The body flexed so much the base of the 'B' pillar was pulling away from the sill. The seat bolsters were collapsing even with my knowledge of how brittle they were and how careful you had to be with them. The door seals were pealing off as they were only held on with double sided tape. The engine was as dull as a wet sponge. The air-con failed completely (the car was only 3 years old at the time) and it had the power of a victa without the character. The electrics left me stranded when a relay vibrated out of it's mount. Leaking battery acid took all the paint off the battery tray - which also contained the gearbox mount ( I removed that, had it media blasted and powder coated to prevent rust - all when it was 4 years old). I could go on and on - but yes I loved that 205 when I threw it at a corner. I'd never known lift off oversteer like that in the wet !

    By contrast, the GTi6 was a gem. I owned that for 13 years from '99 to 2012. No plastics failed, the paint was mint even when I sold it, the air-con was still icy cold, and after warming at the start of a drive that xu10j4rs went to the redline on every drive, and again, and again....mmmmmm yum. Handling was a dream and so controllable it was ridiculous. First FWD car I've owned where you could drift it on a roundabout in the wet...lol. What finally made me sell it ultimately was the leaking heater matrix which seems to affect a great deal of 306's. I hear handy owners can change them in about 3 hours. Ah - the door linings came loose which I glued back on with contact cement - messy but not beyond most owners I'm sure.

    So my vote would be for the GTi6 over a 205GTi.

    Cheers

    Justin
    Well I guess my first ownership of a 6 was a car with 300,000 odd Kay's on it

    I agree with your driving assessment though, an absolute blast to drive, I did love it and loved redlining the engine. My xsi has the handling but not the revving...

  17. #17
    1000+ Posts schlitzaugen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    loneliness capital of the world
    Posts
    8,374

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by N5GTi6 View Post
    You and I have very different experiences of 205's and GTI6's.

    I owned a 205GTI S3 for 3 years from '96 to '99. Legendary was all I could agree on. Raw to me meant 'poor build quality'. In '99 my 205 had the plastics cracking around the sunroof and around the plenum under the windscreen. The body flexed so much the base of the 'B' pillar was pulling away from the sill. The seat bolsters were collapsing even with my knowledge of how brittle they were and how careful you had to be with them. The door seals were pealing off as they were only held on with double sided tape. The engine was as dull as a wet sponge. The air-con failed completely (the car was only 3 years old at the time) and it had the power of a victa without the character. The electrics left me stranded when a relay vibrated out of it's mount. Leaking battery acid took all the paint off the battery tray - which also contained the gearbox mount ( I removed that, had it media blasted and powder coated to prevent rust - all when it was 4 years old). I could go on and on - but yes I loved that 205 when I threw it at a corner. I'd never known lift off oversteer like that in the wet !

    By contrast, the GTi6 was a gem. I owned that for 13 years from '99 to 2012. No plastics failed, the paint was mint even when I sold it, the air-con was still icy cold, and after warming at the start of a drive that xu10j4rs went to the redline on every drive, and again, and again....mmmmmm yum. Handling was a dream and so controllable it was ridiculous. First FWD car I've owned where you could drift it on a roundabout in the wet...lol. What finally made me sell it ultimately was the leaking heater matrix which seems to affect a great deal of 306's. I hear handy owners can change them in about 3 hours. Ah - the door linings came loose which I glued back on with contact cement - messy but not beyond most owners I'm sure.

    So my vote would be for the GTi6 over a 205GTi.

    Cheers

    Justin
    Maybe you got a dud one. That engine shines and given the car is so light, you've got all the power you need.

    But you're looking at all the wrong things. The 205GTI was all about driving pleasure, cornering ability and that torquey, low geared engine. Raw means unmediated connection to the road, not quality plastics. G forces in your bum if you want.

    That is why the 205 had more impact. And why in every modern hot hatch review you see today the benchmark is the 205GTI, not the GTI6. That is what impact means. By comparison the GTI6 went nearly unnoticed.

    Take solace in the fact that the GTI6 is going to be a good bargain whilst the 205GTI will get out of reach.

    Irrespective of any shortcomings with interiors, finish and what else. These are not what the 205GTI is about and nobody cares about it. If they did, they would buy a Honda.
    Last edited by schlitzaugen; 22nd November 2018 at 03:28 AM.
    ACHTUNG ALLES LOOKENPEEPERS

    Das computermachine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitssparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken bei das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in das pockets-relaxen und watch das blinkenlights.

  18. #18
    sans witticism SLC206's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    North Parramatta
    Posts
    3,941

    Default

    Here's a table of local sales for you, based on historical VFacts data:

    1994 S16 88
    1995
    S16 207
    1996 S16 24
    1997 GTi6 43
    1998 GTi6 143
    1999 GTi6 66 GTi 9
    2000 GTi6 5 GTi 24
    Total S16 319 GTi6 257 GTi 33
    Last edited by SLC206; 22nd November 2018 at 12:42 PM.
    Regards,

    Simon

    2018 308 GTi 2011 DS3 DSport
    ----
    2014 208 GTi 2007 207 GTi 2004 206 GTi180 2000 206 GTi 1995 306 XT

    www.peugeotclub.asn.au

  19. #19
    Fellow Frogger! dmccurtayne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Newcastle/ central coast
    Posts
    758

    Default

    So gti was 206?


    Garage C5 X7 3008 XTE
    Gone but not forgotten 206 GTI 180 306 XR SED 405 MI16 x2 505 GR xzara VTS 406 SV 206 XT Berlingo 2011 (best car ever) 306 HDI 307 XSE HDI touring
    Fix it right the first time

  20. #20
    sans witticism SLC206's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    North Parramatta
    Posts
    3,941

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dmccurtayne View Post
    So gti was 206?
    No, I think some time late in production Peugeot dropped the 6 from the GTi6. I don't think Peugeot Australia ever referred to it as anything other than the GTi6 though, so I'm not sure why VFacts had a separate listing for it.

    The 206 GTi/GTi180 was up to 2815 local sales by the end of 2006 (from 1999-2006). The Ryton plant closed in Dec 2006 so I don't think too many more 206 GTi/GTi180s were sold here after then.
    TrinityJayOne likes this.
    Regards,

    Simon

    2018 308 GTi 2011 DS3 DSport
    ----
    2014 208 GTi 2007 207 GTi 2004 206 GTi180 2000 206 GTi 1995 306 XT

    www.peugeotclub.asn.au

  21. #21
    Fellow Frogger!
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Preston, Melbourne
    Posts
    251

    Default

    That's interesting, I would have thought there were far more Gti6's than S16's sold. There are certainly far more still on the road, surely.

    Sent from my Nokia 7 plus using Tapatalk
    06 Citroen C5 Estate 2.2 Hdi Auto
    95 Peugeot 306 S16
    95 Silver Xantia VSX - now deceased

  22. #22
    Fellow Frogger! dmccurtayne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Newcastle/ central coast
    Posts
    758

    Default How many Gti6s were sold in Australia

    I don’t know we had one of the last gti6s at Euro tech I can’t remember anything about that I should remember the thing sat on the showroom for ever.
    S16 was a bit cheaper


    Garage C5 X7 3008 XTE
    Gone but not forgotten 206 GTI 180 306 XR SED 405 MI16 x2 505 GR xzara VTS 406 SV 206 XT Berlingo 2011 (best car ever) 306 HDI 307 XSE HDI touring
    Fix it right the first time

  23. #23
    VIP Sponsor
    Join Date
    Aug 2000
    Posts
    8,820

    Default

    I'm no fan of 205 GTis but love the Sis. 306s ride extremely well but nothing else appeals to me that much.

    Quote Originally Posted by N5GTi6 View Post
    You and I have very different experiences of 205's and GTI6's.

    I owned a 205GTI S3 for 3 years from '96 to '99. Legendary was all I could agree on. Raw to me meant 'poor build quality'. In '99 my 205 had the plastics cracking around the sunroof and around the plenum under the windscreen. The body flexed so much the base of the 'B' pillar was pulling away from the sill. The seat bolsters were collapsing even with my knowledge of how brittle they were and how careful you had to be with them. The door seals were pealing off as they were only held on with double sided tape. The engine was as dull as a wet sponge. The air-con failed completely (the car was only 3 years old at the time) and it had the power of a victa without the character. The electrics left me stranded when a relay vibrated out of it's mount. Leaking battery acid took all the paint off the battery tray - which also contained the gearbox mount ( I removed that, had it media blasted and powder coated to prevent rust - all when it was 4 years old). I could go on and on - but yes I loved that 205 when I threw it at a corner. I'd never known lift off oversteer like that in the wet !

    By contrast, the GTi6 was a gem. I owned that for 13 years from '99 to 2012. No plastics failed, the paint was mint even when I sold it, the air-con was still icy cold, and after warming at the start of a drive that xu10j4rs went to the redline on every drive, and again, and again....mmmmmm yum. Handling was a dream and so controllable it was ridiculous. First FWD car I've owned where you could drift it on a roundabout in the wet...lol. What finally made me sell it ultimately was the leaking heater matrix which seems to affect a great deal of 306's. I hear handy owners can change them in about 3 hours. Ah - the door linings came loose which I glued back on with contact cement - messy but not beyond most owners I'm sure.

    So my vote would be for the GTi6 over a 205GTi.

    Cheers

    Justin

  24. #24
    Fellow Frogger!
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    410

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206 View Post
    No, I think some time late in production Peugeot dropped the 6 from the GTi6. I don't think Peugeot Australia ever referred to it as anything other than the GTi6 though, so I'm not sure why VFacts had a separate listing for it..
    That would go some way to explaining why my 3/2000 model has 'GTi' badging when nearly all the others I see, most older, have the red '6' as well.
    2000 306 GTi6 'Josie'

  25. #25
    Fellow Frogger! dmccurtayne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Newcastle/ central coast
    Posts
    758

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityJayOne View Post
    That would go some way to explaining why my 3/2000 model has 'GTi' badging when nearly all the others I see, most older, have the red '6' as well.
    Can you post a pick of the badges for my own shits and giggles


    Garage C5 X7 3008 XTE
    Gone but not forgotten 206 GTI 180 306 XR SED 405 MI16 x2 505 GR xzara VTS 406 SV 206 XT Berlingo 2011 (best car ever) 306 HDI 307 XSE HDI touring
    Fix it right the first time

Page 1 of 2 12 Last

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •