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    Default Buying Peugeot 407 wagon- am I stupid?

    Hello everyone. I came to this forum as I am suddenly considering buying a used 407 wagon. I am not a car person as such- and I am not a wealthy person. My current car is a Volvo 850 T5 wagon that dates back to 1996. She is now getting on in years- and getting to that point where I am starting to think to retire her- permanently.

    I know a person in my financial position should probably not even entertain buying a luxury European car- but the idea of an ugly commodore or bland japanese car just doesn't appeal to me. I was spolied by driving Holden EH, EJ and Valiant VC- all classics.... I actually did quite well with my Volvo 850 which has run well since I bought it six years ago with 220 K on the clock. I replaced the serpentine belt, water pump, plugs and a few other bits and pieces when I got her- and have only had minor issues since that time. I think I was lucky...

    Currently I have decided I really want a peugeot 407 wagon- with the 2 liter turbo diesel engine and six speed auto. I have read they are the more reliable set up. I think it isthe moon roof that has gotten me hooked on the idea.... though who really needs a moon roof- and I sunburn easy ;-) I also quite like the appearance of the car- and the prospect of heated leather seats (I have a bad back)..

    NOW: my question is: am I being stupid? Is such a vehicle likely to be problem prone and extremely expensive to repair? My budget is only around 3-5 K and I don't have a lot of money in reserve for potential issues. I can do minor repairs/part replacements myself- but am no mechanic and have limited tools and skills.

    I do understand that there is no absolute answer to my question- that I may get a lemon- or I may get a great car- that it's all a bit of a gamble. My thinking is with these types of cars- they have often had responsible owners and have good service histories. But how reliable are they intrinsically? Will I need to find a specialist Peugeot mechanic?

    Any thoughts or advice from people who know these cars would be great- thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinkingpeugeot View Post
    (I have a bad back)..
    My initial thoughts on that are get an SUV.

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    I don't like SUV's... and my back isn't that bad... the seats int he 407 look pretty comfortable- in the front at least? I am looking for the deluxe leather ones...

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    hey Tp,

    welcome to aussiefrogs, a good, knowledgeable and supportive motoring group.
    we have some fun too.
    some may argue that parts are expensive and sometimes hard to get
    Peugeot Car Club of South Australia, Peugeot Car Club Of South Australia Inc exists and meets at the Marryatville pub monthly.
    probably you could latch onto someone there to help out with repairs, surely you have something to offer in fair exchange, sense of humour, charisma etc. etc
    Similar to Volvo, Peugeot are quality, euro built cars that are innovative, comfortable and built to last ...
    kept me going for 40 years with owner maintenance.
    gets my tick of approval
    best of french with it

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    If you are happy to purchase an 8 year old, or older car, with sensibly priced parts available mostly overseas then go for it.

    I'd err on the side of manual, knowing the history of AL4 autos.

    Good condition and a service history would be high on my priorities when assessing a vehicle to purchase.

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    The six speed auto is the AM6 isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    The six speed auto is the AM6 isn't it?
    Could well be. AM6 are better than the AL4, but still seem to have more than fair share issues.(based on AF threads about them)

    In giving advice, I fatored in, the manuals don't seem to give trouble.
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    Yes it is.

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    Don't worry, the 407 sure isn't a luxury vehicle... its the equivelant of a camry in Europe All of the later cars seem to be very robust. the 6spd autos and deisels are well known and very reliable. DO NOT BUY A 4spd AUTO.

    The v6 diesel is also used in Citroens, Land rovers, and Ford Territories ... so parts shouldnt' be an issue.

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    I have a 2008 407hdi wagon with all the bells and whistles. It is worth knowing that Peugeot are unable to upgrade the GPS and the inbuilt phone is 2G so unusable. Mine is a 6 speed auto, my first auto car, which I like and it is easier on my arthritic knee. I really like this car. The leather seats are great, extremely comfortable. The glass roof is really good in both summer and winter. The kids love it as they can watch the stars at night. It is UV proof so no worry about sunburn. I have only done about 125,000 km and the only expense, apart from servicing,has been a new cam belt which I changed due to age. The old one was perfect when removed. I intend on keeping this car for a while yet.
    I am having a slight problem at the moment with the engine vibrating a lot on a cold start which I will have attended to ASAP.

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    I put this up on the 406 v 407 thread........................

    I have owned a 406 Coupe and a 407 sedan and now a 407 wagon. Both 407s were/are SV sport V6 petrol 6 speed autos. When the 406 coupe failed to proceed the dealer and my lovely wife ganged up on me and we ended up with the 407 sedan. After too many kilometers it also died. I was going to buy a 508 wagon but Carolyn wanted a wagon and wanted it to be a 407 SV and I wanted a V6 petrol because I still believe that if you want to drive a diesel buy a truck.
    So we bought a second hand V6petrol 407 SV wagon with 103,00kms for the price of 150 cartons of beer and apart from a bit of a glitch on the way up to and back from QLD over Easter we are really happy with it (problem was an older battery with symptoms like "coil power theft" which meant that I had all the different "faults" came up on the display but I could drive in manual mode which I did and now appears to have been fixed with a new battery).
    So. I would say, have a go at the 407 and enjoy it - we do.
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    I'll just repeat what Robmac said. Good condition and service history are the essentials with an HDI.
    Since the turbo runs with the engine oil regular oil changes at low intervals are ideal. My white 406 has 400,000K's but it was serviced every 5000K's all it's life and feels almost as good as my other one with half the mileage. I have only test driven one 407 and though they said it had a good service record I looked carefully to discover two occasions when they had left it go for 30,000K's between oil changes.
    So that's what you need to look at and if it's done religiously and everything works that's as good as you can get for picking it.
    No I don't think they are as good as 406, in answer to the other thread, because 406 is such a smooth ride on any road surface, handles nearly as well as a 505 and for me is supremely cumfy without all the bells and whistles that may be a seduction point with the 407. Whatever floats yer boat.

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    Thanks for all the input peoples. Itís the confirmation I think I was fishing for 😏

    I found this car- crazy low mileage for a 2006 vehicle. Unfortunately itís the larger 6 cylinder 2.7- but looks pretty good:

    2006 Peugeot 407 SV HDi Touring Turbo Diesel Automatic Wagon Auction (0001-8008923) | GraysOnline Australia

    I might look at it tomorrow- and if it doesnít go much higher I might place a bid. I think it will go higher though...

    Oh- and BTW- given that most of the cars I have owned were made before 1968- any car with air con, keyless entry and power windows is a luxury car 😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinkingpeugeot View Post
    Thanks for all the input peoples. It’s the confirmation I think I was fishing for ��

    I found this car- crazy low mileage for a 2006 vehicle. Unfortunately it’s the larger 6 cylinder 2.7- but looks pretty good:

    2006 Peugeot 407 SV HDi Touring Turbo Diesel Automatic Wagon Auction (0001-8008923) | GraysOnline Australia

    I might look at it tomorrow- and if it doesn’t go much higher I might place a bid. I think it will go higher though...

    Oh- and BTW- given that most of the cars I have owned were made before 1968- any car with air con, keyless entry and power windows is a luxury car ��
    That would be the ideal model IMO ... big grunty v6 diesel that you can get parts for anywhere. 6 spd slugomatic (so reliable) and the MUCH better wagon version that sits higher and has a lot more room inside..... Low milage too. You would need to budget for cambelt change and full service (if not alreayd done).

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    Currently own 2 407 HDi sedans. One is an '04 AL4 auto with about 240k of mostly rural driving. My car is an '07 manual that came with 240k on it. I don't use many parts and get what I can from non dealer, European manufacture sources. Have good relationship with a friendly Dealer mechanic who helps out with diagnosis and advice on potential issues. The 2.7 HDi sounded like a good idea till we had a short chat. However, it does seem that there may be some hope if some of the variations used by other users of that engine are adopted, if possible and at what cost. A fellow at the Bris Bastille Day was intending to do just that. Hoping he will be at this years event so we can get an update. For the moment I'm advised to stay with the 2.0HDi and that is what I intend to do. Typically the mixed rural/town driving is 5.2 lts 100k, but have seen mid 4s on trips to Sydney.

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    I don't really think I need the extra power of the 2.7- and I like the fuel efficiency of the 2.0. Also it looks like that auction is going to go over my budget- so for the time being I will probably stick with the Volvo and wait to find a 2.0 TD with more Km's on it and for a better price.

    Is the 2.0 turbo diesel reasonably powered going uphill? I am a bit spoiled by my 5 cylinder Volvo T5- it is a very zippy engine... Plenty of power.

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