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    Default 406 vs 407, is the 407 better?

    I知 thinking of upgrading my 406 HDi to a 407 HDi.

    I知 after the opinions of those who have owned both.

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    The 406 is a beautiful car, quiet, comfortable, handles well, rides well, etc. I知 hoping the 407 is better again!

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    No, 406 is much better. I drove a new 406 and a 407 in the two Round Australia Reruns sponsored by Peugeot Australia, cars supplied as part of the sponsorship. I loved the 406 as did anyone else who drove it. Disliked the 407 for many reasons. Two of which were crashy ride on the 407 and poor economy, 7.5 litres per hundred for the 407 and 5.5 for the 406, both HDIs and cruising on the speed limit. Only thing better about the 407 was the steering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo81 View Post
    I’m thinking of upgrading my 406 HDi to a 407 HDi.

    I’m after the opinions of those who have owned both.

    The 406 is a beautiful car, quiet, comfortable, handles well, rides well, etc. I’m hoping the 407 is better again!


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    Have not owned a 406, although I would love a coupe. I think our Pug 407 2L Hdi sedan is one of the best city family cars I've owned. Its certainly got the best full economy of any car I've owned and it's a great all round family car that is nice and comfy to drive on longer interstate trips. The wife and kids enjoy driving it as well. Cheap to buy and maintain. Almost no complaints here, a +1 for the 407 2L Hdi here.

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    Keep the 406. Last of the good Pugs.

    Everyone I know who has upgraded has been disappointed.
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    I had a 406 and it was a fantastic car. Great handling and economy in the 2.0 HDi. Opinion of some Finnish owners was that the 407 was no where near as good as the 406
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    I've only ridden in the '*07' models but thought the ride very poor. I rode in a 508 once and thought it even worse.

    Did they lose the plot when their long term suspension design leader retired after doing the 306 and 406?
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    I had a sv 406 and a diesel 407 obviously the 406 is a better car but it terms of safety and that everything has to be bigger and more more the 407 was the only way forward shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo81 View Post
    I’m thinking of upgrading my 406 HDi to a 407 HDi.

    I’m after the opinions of those who have owned both.

    The 406 is a beautiful car, quiet, comfortable, handles well, rides well, etc. I’m hoping the 407 is better again!
    been there .. done that:

    406 & 407 - a general discussion

    I would suggest getting rid of both the crappy cars and buying something decent like a Citroen CX
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    I've only ridden in the '*07' models but thought the ride very poor. I rode in a 508 once and thought it even worse.

    Did they lose the plot when their long term suspension design leader retired after doing the 306 and 406?

    I think they lost the plot when they started listening to the marketing demands of BIG wheels, low profile tyres. "Sporty" feeling suspension i.e. Hard and uncompliant

    Have to say, I'm inclined to agree with deux chevaux that real cars have hydraulics after my recent test drive.
    But failing that, long travel conventional suspension works well too.

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    Keep the 406!!!!!!!!
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    I love my 407 hdi SW

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    I have owned a 406 Coupe and a 407 sedan and now a 407 wagon. Both 407s were/are SV sport V6 petrol 6 speed autos. When the 406 coupe failed to proceed the dealer and my lovely wife ganged up on me and we ended up with the 407 sedan. After too many kilometers it also died. I was going to buy a 508 wagon but Carolyn wanted a wagon and wanted it to be a 407 SV and I wanted a V6 petrol because I still believe that if you want to drive a diesel buy a truck.
    So we bought a second hand V6petrol 407 SV wagon with 103,00kms for the price of 150 cartons of beer and apart from a bit of a glitch on the way up to and back from QLD over Easter we are really happy with it (problem was an older battery with symptoms like "coil power theft" which meant that I had all the different "faults" came up on the display but I could drive in manual mode which I did and now appears to have been fixed with a new battery).
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    What happened when they went 07;

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    I've only ridden in the '*07' models but thought the ride very poor. I rode in a 508 once and thought it even worse.

    Did they lose the plot when their long term suspension design leader retired after doing the 306 and 406?
    The suspension in the 407 took a different direction from the 405/406 line, on sealed roads it is much more flowing and smooth. I'd called the 407 the flying sofa as it was comfortable to the point of dreary/boring (this can be a good thing!) and the steering extremely soft with little road feel. Haven't driven the 508 so can't comment there.
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    I thought the 407 steering was great, you never had to take your hands off the wheel to go round any corner. The 406 was exceedingly lifeless in the steering, just as well the handling was so good.
    Personally I think the 405 series 2 is the high point of this range of cars, it has its faults but the compact exterior size and large amounts of interior and boot space make it a standout.
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    There's a lot of nostalgia here. The 407 a now a superseded design. The 406 will soon be a museum piece, rather than a daily drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasink View Post
    There's a lot of nostalgia here. The 407 a now a superseded design. The 406 will soon be a museum piece, rather than a daily drive.
    Really. I thought there was a lot of good objective posts. Newer is better is the least objective attitude that's so pervasive in the world today. It's a recipe for the mediocre.
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    I didn't knock the 406 design. But it's old, and for daily use that usually means bother.

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    Great opinions! Thanks guys!

    it sounds like I’ll keep the 406 till a better low km one comes up..

    i do like a soft, smooth ride though (I do a lot of freeway driving)... maybe I should test drive a 407.. although, I do prefer the look of the 406..

    we never got the 2.2 HDi 16 valve in the 406, did we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mi16 Man View Post
    What happened when they went ‘07’;

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    This is hilarious. Same as our two cars. Even my 20 year old daughter got a laugh out of this.
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    The main complaint I had with our 406 HDI manual was the poor quality of the paint and glass which developed permanent water marks and the slightly cheap feel of the buttons.


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    We had a fantastic run with our 406 HDi. Bought as a near new demo in 2004 it had travelled over 518,000 km when in 2016 a large 喪oo sat heavily on the front end and bonnet, rendering it an insurance write off. We took it everywhere, a very predictable car on gravel and in the wet, brilliant fuel economy and mechanically simple and reliable. It was also remarkably child proof!
    Sadly I couldn稚 find another 406 to replace it, but found some solace in the charms of a Citroen C5 HDi. A different car for a different time!
    Given your choice, I壇 stick with the 406 🙂.
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    Horses for courses - I’ve had:

    406 3.0 SV sedan
    407 2.7HDi tt coupe (still got)

    Both nice cars, but VERY different in character and dynamics. 406 was definitely sportier/livelier, where the 407 is a much better GT.

    Both had trans failures (solenoid blocks) but otherwise only normal service parts.

    Really depends what you want it for. I’d sell a kidney for a perfect 406 D2 coupe manual, because it’s probably the most beautiful car ever made, but I wouldn’t give up my 407,cause it’s just such a nice place to be for the sort of driving I do - even if it is the ugly younger sister

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypermiler View Post
    The suspension in the 407 took a different direction from the 405/406 line, on sealed roads it is much more flowing and smooth. I'd called the 407 the flying sofa as it was comfortable to the point of dreary/boring (this can be a good thing!) and the steering extremely soft with little road feel. Haven't driven the 508 so can't comment there.
    Wow... that has to be a first. someone calling the 407 suspension smooth ....... I guess it would be if the road was perfect and smooth (then again ... so would a shopping trolley ).

    I suggest going for a drive in a nice Citroen CX, GS, 2cv, DS, C6, SM etc... so you can understand what a car *should* ride like

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