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    Fob does not send signal directly, it is induced by antenna to do so, car / BSI / ECU would not allow this if it were not working, very little to go wrong, it encapsulated in Graphite, I nearly lost it when I did the Fob on my 307 it is so small / unobvious. Without it car just cranked.

    I would add it might be the earths at issue, get some no-ox-id grease from ebay, use it with a cotton wool earbud and apply sparingly as required / everywhere you go. Electrics n the 307 / 407 are a weak point, earths in a multiplexed system are going to give multiple issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    Fob does not send signal directly, it is induced by antenna to do so, car / BSI / ECU would not allow this if it were not working, very little to go wrong, it encapsulated in Graphite, I nearly lost it when I did the Fob on my 307 it is so small / unobvious. Without it car just cranked.

    I would add it might be the earths at issue, get some no-ox-id grease from ebay, use it with a cotton wool earbud and apply sparingly as required / everywhere you go. Electrics n the 307 / 407 are a weak point, earths in a multiplexed system are going to give multiple issues.
    Mathew...wherte is the antenna located?
    Is this in the COM2000?
    I agree about the earths and this will be my first port of call when car is home.
    At least having the fob checked will give me piece of mind...the first step
    on a long journey ;o))
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    Well...the PP2k/Diag Box/Lexia-3 kit arrived today and all looks good and
    well made.
    The disc has me concerned though.
    Trying to work out which file has the download for the software.
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    Fob antenna is the ring around the keyhole behind the plastic. Its the electrical connection (2 wire) to the mechanical key mechanism!

    Very interested in your PP2K etc, will discuss later.
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    OK guys....have brought Peppi home from the dealers in Launceston.
    They relieved me of $260 for the two and a half weeks he was up there.
    I could not talk to the tech because he and one other were away on a weeks
    training in Sydney.
    That's something I suppose but doesn't do us any good.

    The car performed flawlessly for the 160klm journey with all systems working
    properly, engine, gearbox, brakes, lights, wipers, horns, air-con/heating.
    The things that don't work are:
    *Central locking doesn't work from fob.
    *C/locking does not work with key in door.
    *Interior lights do not come on when door is opened.
    *Turn ign. key to pos.1 and wipers front and rear sweep four times.
    *Cannot open hatch unless ign is on pos.2 and lock button on dash is pressed.
    *When radio is on, it emits a loud bleep, bleep.

    When I can figure out the PP2K disc and download to my laptop, I will be able to hopefully
    do some interrogating of my own.
    I have taken note of others comments regards broken wires and bad earths and
    I will concentrate on these to start with by removing drivers door card to give thorough
    check on internals including lock mechanism and switching, door loom and plugs.
    All the accessible earths will be cleaned and lubricated with di-electric grease.
    These have never been disturbed in 15 years..........The beat goes on ;o))
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    Radio beep beep is mismatch to BSI for starters. NOt dielectric grease, that infers isolating two conductors (think capacitor) you need conductive grease, coloidal copper / silver for the no-ox-id I mentioned. Supercheap have one I think or Autobarn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    Radio beep beep is mismatch to BSI for starters. NOT dielectric grease, that infers isolating two conductors (think capacitor) you need conductive grease, colloidal copper / silver for the no-ox-id I mentioned. Supercheap have one I think or Autobarn.
    Hmmmm...that's strange, I have always used di-electric grease as a conductive medium
    with no problems....I'll have to re-assess.
    I guess the radio beeping will be part of the re configuration of PP2k?
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    A di-electric is a none conductive medium afaik / was educated.
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    Had an idea can you check if any door open shows up on the dash just to eliminate the drivers door at this stage.
    If dash light appears check map/interior lights are turned on and work with any door that appears on dash lights.

    Report back.

    I'm thinking drivers door switches are faulty or the relay or diode is open circuit on BSI.
    Yet to find a full circuit diagram of any BSI so wiring need to be traced.

    Could also be a burnt pin with the stupid Molex (?) Connectors on the BSI. Trace door to BSI cabling.



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    I seen similar things before. Let's assume that your driver's door central locking motor is fried and has taken out the door opening switch in the process. (It's all one component.)


    *Central locking doesn't work from fob. - because locking motor is fried
    *C/locking does not work with key in door. - because locking motor is fried
    *Interior lights do not come on when door is opened. - because door opening switch doesn't work
    *Turn ign. key to pos.1 and wipers front and rear sweep four times. - because the BSI can't understand how you turned the key on without getting into the car
    *Cannot open hatch unless ign is on pos.2 and lock button on dash is pressed. - because the hatch is deadlocked until you open a door, so no-one can steal your stuff at traffic lights.
    *When radio is on, it emits a loud bleep, bleep. - not sure about this one, but it may just be more confused BSI about the door not getting opened.

    Try the other doors on the car and see if the lights come on. You could try the passenger side central locking with key, but I don't think it will work either. If the interior light comes on with another door (even a back one) I bet you can open the hatch. I haven't had this problem with a 307 but I've had similar problems with a 206GTI and a Citroen C5.

    I have a working PP2000 set up and am not too far from you (Mole Creek) - but you probably don't need it to diagnose the problem.

    Hope that helps

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    Right gentlemen....present state of play.
    My wife and daughter have just returned after a 1000klm weekend down south of the state
    and the car ran perfectly....albeit without any central locking which remains the big issue.
    I have ordered a PP2k software package last week and will take another seven days.

    If lock button on dash is pressed all doors except the drivers door will lock, including hatch.
    If ign. is switched on, the hatch can be unlocked.
    he drivers door still does not react to fob and you have to lock it manually .
    I definitely agree that there is a problem in the drivers door c/locking switch, motor and
    plug loom.
    The interior lights still do not come on when door is opened.
    With key in ign. and door open there is no recognition warning bong.
    The BSI will definitely have to be re-programmed which hopefully will solve most glitches
    but the drivers door will need some work....when i get th chance to work on the car as
    my wife uses it every day for work at the local hospital ;o)
    The int. lights will not come on with any door being opened....but inside with all doors closed
    you can operated the int. and map lights no problem.
    Kim....if you could PM me regards your PP2k I would appreciate it....we could compare notes
    and as you're just up the road, we may be able to get together to nut this out.
    I wasn't impressed with the two weeks the car spent at the dealers in Launceston and achieved nothing!
    We have referred the matter to PSA Aust. and they are dealing with it.
    My e-mail is: [email protected] I do things a little slower these days with vision in one eye and les than 60% mobility on my left side....but we'll soldier on ;o))

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