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    Hi I currently have a 2005 407 ST Executive - a beautiful car which I really enjoy. Since owning this car I am now a big Peugeot fan! I have my eye on a used 508 as my next car. I have narrowed it down to two but I'm having trouble deciding between the two. They are:
    1. 2012 508 GT HDi sedan, 2.2L Turbo diesel, 60,000km
    2. 2013 508 Allure wagon, 1.6L Turbo petrol, 50,000km

    Both are through interstate dealers and both have been quoted with delivery to my state for under $20,000. The total for the Allure wagon is $2,000 less than the GT.

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    I have read many reviews and specifications lists - but I'm still not sure if the greater engine capacity, fuel economy, and features of the GT compensate for the greater cost, when the Allure is (slightly) newer and has lower km. Unfortunately driving them both to compare is not an option as I'm in another state. Any advice appreciated.

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    My advice would be if these cars are not to far apart is to fly over and take a test drive for yourself and decide which car is best for you.

    Then when you have decided haggle with the dealer you will probably get the car for say 16 to 18 K$.

    Then drive it back home.

    You seem to have your heart set on one of these cars so doing a little leg work your self will save you a few thousand $

    Airfares are cheap and you can come back on the Spirit or one of the other carriers.
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    I can't comment on the sedan but I did test drive a 1.6 touring last year with similar Kay's. It was very nice, roomy and quiet and the 1.6 is perfectly capable for the car. However thanks to the refinement they are largely anonymous to drive. The interior and seats in particular were very good. The only reason I didn't buy buy it was because my wife had her eye on an Audi A3. Now that was a mistake purchase...

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    I don't think a 508 is likely to be regretted.

    The GT model has the same front suspension as the 407 (and the Citroen C5). The Allure has McPherson struts up front.
    Interior fruit varies a little, as the GT is top of the range.

    I have a C5 diesel and a small Citroen with the turbo petrol. The diesel suits the larger car better in my view, but in the small light car the 1.6 THP is a very nippy goer.

    While you are looking at these cars, check also the Citroen C5 of that era. An earlier design, non-exclusive models are steel sprung and mechanically and structurally the same as the 508GT. Interior fitments vary with spec.

    508 PDF brochures for the year can be found online still.

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    Oh also not that most allure wagons had the full length glass roof. Makes the car hot and from memory the blind didn't fully block the sun. And I mirror what seasink says, I don't think you'd regret either purchase. Really nice cars and still look fresh today.

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    Oh also not that most allure wagons had the full length glass roof. Makes the car hot and from memory the blind didn't fully block the sun. And I mirror what seasink says, I don't think you'd regret either purchase. Really nice cars and still look fresh today. Very underrated

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    I bought a 2012 GT with 50k on the clock.
    I loved it so much I went and bought another GT (2014) without hesitation when my wife’s 2006 407 was due to be replaced.
    The extra torque of the 2.2 together with additional features sold me.
    Now happy owner of 2 508 GTs.
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    My thoughts are a 308 hatch or wagon with the 1.6 motor would be fine. I would take the car with the diesel motor rather than the wagon as you already have a sedan. The 508 wagon is quite a size in some parking situations. Bargain hard they are not moving out of car yards at any speed. The extra grunt of the 2.2 will put a smile on your face but you might pay more in speeding fines!

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    1.6 litre engines have their challenges.Very long time Peugeot dealer I have known since the early 70 s....has a 1.6 in stock.....having challenge to movie.If you would really like a wagon...the 2 litre or 2.2 hdi way to go....Sadly THEIR prices have not held...various reasons...but bang for your buck...AMAZING...Strongly suggest speaking to the prior owner.

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    Many thanks to all those who have responded... very helpful and greatly appreciated!! I have to say I am definitely leaning towards the GT - performance wise, efficiency, and lurks and perks! But I haven't yet totally discounted the wagon (even though I don't really need a wagon!!) I have also been assured that each has only had one owner and comes with full service history. I will continue negotiating for the best deal - as well as keeping my eye out for any similar 508s coming on the market in the meantime.
    Are there any specific things you would recommend I ask about or check out in relation to 2012-13 508s with 50-60,000 km on the clock?

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    I am also thinking 508.
    Could some long term owner out there please comment on reliability, and any common issues.
    Both petrol and diesel.
    Is the petrol engine up to the task? Timing chain issues??

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    The 508 is the Peugeot version of the later production sprung suspension Citroen C5. Engines, transmission, computers, rear suspension etc are all shared. Only the GT has the C5/P407 front double wishbone suspension. You should spend some time looking at C5 X7 reliability reports as well.

    The diesels are long proved, low-revving long mileage machines. The 1.6 turbo petrols derive from a design that had serious teething troubles a decade ago - chains in particular - and had several design revisions. They eventually installed them in C5s and the 508, as well as in small and medium cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KazzJ View Post
    Many thanks to all those who have responded... very helpful and greatly appreciated!! I have to say I am definitely leaning towards the GT - performance wise, efficiency, and lurks and perks! But I haven't yet totally discounted the wagon (even though I don't really need a wagon!!) I have also been assured that each has only had one owner and comes with full service history. I will continue negotiating for the best deal - as well as keeping my eye out for any similar 508s coming on the market in the meantime.
    Are there any specific things you would recommend I ask about or check out in relation to 2012-13 508s with 50-60,000 km on the clock?
    My main concern would be to find a dealer in Tas. up to the task of correct servicing, having the correct diagnostic equipment and suitable experience to use it correctly.
    Any one can do lubrication services etc but when / if a major issue arises you may be on your own !

    The dealerships have had a recent reshuffle in this State as you are possibly aware with the 407.

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    Are there any specific things you would recommend I ask about or check out in relation to 2012-13 508s with 50-60,000 km on the clock?
    That's a low mileage for the HDI. Servicing is critical for longevity, particularly oil changes and low ash oil type, so check all was done, including the fuel filter. By now the air filter should have been serviced, and possibly the pollen filter. A 2012 battery, if original, is nearing the scrapper. Major services are still a way off.

    The dealers wont recommend it, but AF consensus is to change the transmission fluid about now. Wear items to look at are the tyres and brake pads and discs.

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    Great tips - thank you!!
    Any recommendations for who to get for an independent vehicle inspection in Sydney?

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    Sydney takes a couple of hours to drive across. Some of our favourite Cit mechanics may not want to travel. You can always pay for an NRMA inspection if you are affiliated with them in Tas. Where is the car?

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    I'd contemplated buying a GT prior to buying the latest 308. GT seems to be very well equipped and that 2.2 would provide amazing grunt.

    The black sedan looks nice, even though I'm not a huge fan of black cars. I guess at that price point for a new car people really aren't very adventurous with their new car colour choices. It looks like it has some curbing on the wheels but the fact that it has ContiSportContacts indicates that the previous owner didn't skimp -they're not cheap tyres.

    It is a little strange that the service book is for a 208. I'd query that with the dealer. I've had no dealings with Muirs so can't comment on the dealership. They're certainly not a Peugeot dealer so didn't sell the car new.

    Nice machine.

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    I should also say that if you want to try Continental Cars for an inspection they're only about 20mins away. They would certainly be 90% familiar with a 508GT.

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    Thanks! Car is in Ashfield

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    Thanks Justin. I noticed the 208 logbook too! The dealer certainly told me that they sold the 508 when new. Your comment made me a bit suss and googled to find this... "Muirs Automotive, Serving Sydney since 1946! If you are searching for a new Holden, Kia or Peugeot or used vehicle in the Sydney area, Muirs is the place to go" Phew!!

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    None of the AF member recommended non-dealer specialists are in the inner west, and few like to travel in Sydney congestion. The NRMA (RACT equivalent) will look over cars, A very good mobile Peugeot mechanic, Revivemylion, might. As mentioned, the capable Citroen C5 ex-dealer, Continental, is a few suburbs south-west of Ashfield at Punchbowl and might be interested these days.

    Colliers workshop is at Granville, further down the Parramatta Road. They are a Peugeot specialist repairer. The rest are a long way off.

    All have websites. You won't be shot for asking.

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    The 407 front suspension clunks and bangs (on the cars I drove when they were new) I think I would prefer the strut front end.

    Quote Originally Posted by seasink View Post
    The 508 is the Peugeot version of the later production sprung suspension Citroen C5. Engines, transmission, computers, rear suspension etc are all shared. Only the GT has the C5/P407 front double wishbone suspension. You should spend some time looking at C5 X7 reliability reports as well.

    The diesels are long proved, low-revving long mileage machines. The 1.6 turbo petrols derive from a design that had serious teething troubles a decade ago - chains in particular - and had several design revisions. They eventually installed them in C5s and the 508, as well as in small and medium cars.

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    The 407 came out in 2004, and I remember some corrosion problems in the bottom joint being noted. The C5 was later in 2008, and the 508 later again in 2011. I haven't heard a front clunk in any of my family's or friend's C5s, though I have come across a noise with a rubber joint in the multilink rear suspension common to all those cars.

    On the other hand my strut supported little DS3 has chucked a couple of top strut bearings in its non-rallying life.

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    I considered the 508 GT, but firmness of ride from the low profile tyres seemed to be evident in a number of reviews, https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-re...n-2017-review/

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    What a load of codswallop that review was. Where do they find these people? As to low profile tyres, find a large sedan without them. It's the fashion.

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