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    kazzj; WE have a "2013 508 HDI SW from new, have kept it well serviced thru Allan Mackay Autos at Moss Vale and it has served us very well, good all-round car to drive with 900km to a tank around town very happy.
    Their is a concern thro with the electric window winders on all the four doors which have all be replaced over this last year thru my extend warranty. There is also a 508GT in my area which also has the same problem but with no warranty and it has cost her a bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasink View Post
    What a load of codswallop that review was. Where do they find these people? As to low profile tyres, find a large sedan without them. It's the fashion.
    Here is another of those people. Peugeot 508 Review | CarAdvice

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    GT has lower profile tyres than standard models

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    Thanks for the suggestions @seasink - I'll check these out. Came across Sydney Premium Vehicle Inspections Car Inspection Sydney | Pre Purchase Used Car Check Has anyone used these guys before? Says they specialise in European vehicles...

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    More the suspension than the tyres.

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    GT has lower profile tyres than standard models

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    So... I had the GT inspected and decided not to buy it as they said almost every panel had been repaired and repainted... back to searching...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugmachine View Post
    kazzj; WE have a "2013 508 HDI SW from new, have kept it well serviced thru Allan Mackay Autos at Moss Vale and it has served us very well, good all-round car to drive with 900km to a tank around town very happy.
    Their is a concern thro with the electric window winders on all the four doors which have all be replaced over this last year thru my extend warranty. There is also a 508GT in my area which also has the same problem but with no warranty and it has cost her a bomb.
    EAI sell them after market and much cheaper. Errol and Steve at Moss Vale mentioned Peugeot Aus will replace for free up to 5yrs old.


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    I was looking at 308ís and never considered a 508 but their price canít be beaten.

    Aim for middle ground Kazz and get a 2L HDi Allure. Grabbed a MY12 last June with 72,000kms for $17,000. One owner, full dealer serving/logbooks.

    Since then, had the following replaced;
    * Transmission (was clunky and sluggish)
    * Transmission selector unit (trail and error before transmission was recognised at fault)
    * Power steering pump (slight weep)
    (All new parts and labour under used dealer warranty and generosity of Peugeot Australia)

    Paid;
    * Drivers window regulator (common fault)
    * Battery (to be expected)
    * Front pads (at 80,000kms service)
    * Rear discs and pads (as above)
    * Swapped out anti theft wheel bolts for normal 17mm bolts (one had to be drilled out)

    Fitted 2x Michelin Pilot Sport 4ís. Awesome. Just about to tick over 90,000kms. Will easily do 25,000kms a year and with just on 1100kms per tank, laughing. ECU advises 6.9L / 100kms since we bought it. Down from 10L in Sydney....

    Now sheís (hopefully) right for another few years.



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    Are you after a Wagon or Sedan?

    This one in TAS ironically

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    Who was able to do the inspection for you?

    A year ago northern Sydney had a horrendous hail storm, which had a lot of more valuable cars repaired and the rest written off.

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    I wouldnít get hung up on the GTís ride on the 19Ē wheels. Way better than my Audi with 17Ē!
    Expect to replace tyres every 40k though (which is still 5k better than the Audi).


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    Thanks Mi16 Man - the info about your 508 and what needed replacing/fixing is really helpful. Sounds like you have a great car now!! Bet you love it! The 508 in Tassie is really nice. Ironically this is the 508 I first had my eye on - it came up for auction in Tas but my loan pre-approval hadn't come through yet. The fixed price prior to auction was $18,880 - a great price and I really wanted to buy it but couldn't!! A dealer bought it at auction and now it's $23,990 - I would want it for less since I know what I could have had it for!! But I think I will still check it out and see if they will take less. I still have half an eye on the 1.6L petrol Allure wagon too...
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    Hi seasink I got Arthur at Sydney Premium Vehicle Inspections to do the inspection Car Check Sydney | Pre Purchase Mobile Vehicle Inspections Really thorough and so helpful - would totally recommend. The GT had several other mostly minor issues relative to age and kms - but he said that every panel except front guards had been repaired and repainted... and not knowing its history - that was enough to change my mind

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    RE: GT vs Allure; Diesel vs Petrol; Running Costs; Colours; Tyres

    I've had a 2013 GT for 2 and half years and have been really happy with it. Servicing costs have been reasonable (Fixed price - although is 6 monthly rather than annually like some other modern cars. The only bigger spend has been replacing brakepads, rotors and tyres (about a year ago). The car has never missed a beat and is very enjoyable to drive.

    I did a test drive of the Active with a 1.6 Petrol engine. It ran well enough but felt a little underpowered. I then tried a GT and really liked it. The interior is noticeably upgraded (leather seats, excellent stereo, sat/nav, HUD). The 2.2 diesel is also much more responsive to a kick. The suspension/steering is improved. Outside it looks much the same but with big alloy wheels and dual exhaust.

    The car I purchased was less than 2 years old at the time (still under warranty ) with just over 26000k, had never been a smash (you can search this), presented as almost new, and was less than half it's original sticker price. I think they're a bargain.

    The car has now done over 55000k and I'm planning on hanging on to for some years to come.

    If you are zeroing in on a GT... It had a mid life facelift (front/rear details and touchscreen sat nav) in 2014. They also reduced the turbo diesel to a 2L engine with minor hit to performance. If you look at 2013 model - all the options are included apart from a sunroof). Prior to 2013, they might not have lower spec lesser stereo, cheaper leather seats. e.g The JBL stereo - which is excellent - was only in the 2012 GT "Luxury" but included in all 2013 GTs. The 2012 generally shipped with 18" starfish alloys while 2013 had the bigger 19".

    I'm in Brisbane and would never buy another black car. My previous VW one particularly hot day detached its roof upholstery so it rested on my head! My GT is a pleasing metallic "Alpine Blue" which I haven't seen often. I actually bought it sight unseen over gumtree and had it shipped north. Pickles (big auctioneers) had listed it. I gather they're a wholesaler and so it was likely intended for dealer. e.g It wasn't detailed so had dust on the bonnet but all in all appeared excellent condition. As it was still under warranty, low kms and never in a smash - I felt the purchase was safe enough. No regrets that's for sure. Carsales and gumtree always seems to have a few.

    The tyres that came with it were the original Continental in rear and cheap Nakangs in the front. The standard tyre spec is 235/40R19 and the ride definitely felt very hard. The 235/40R19 is unusual which explains the Nakangs in the front - the original Continental cost around $600/tyre. When all 4 tyres needed replacing, I changed the tyre to a more common 245/40R19 (Michellin Pilot Sport 4). This was a good decision - the harshness of the ride seemed to disappear.

    Good luck with your quest for a GT. If you get one in good condition that's been maintained properly, I think they're a terrific car for the money and hopefully give no problems like mine over the last 2 and half years.
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    My experience of diesels and now petrol lead me to pre GPF petrol 1.6 turbo using E10/95RON ......yes Iíve heard all the anti E10 stories but my experience is one of equal economy over 8k of both PULP and E10 premium use in the same car (C4P) and saving around 20-30c/L .
    Before we are lumbered with a petrol exhaust filter you have genuinely cheap motoring this way. I loved the idea of a rugged long lasting diesel but they now have too much temperament ancillary baggage (DPF EGR cooler valve, eolys/adblue) meaning larger service bills .......a belt drive camshaft also V chain (itís no longer a problem).
    The diesel economy figures simply donít add up anymore IMO.
    However if you donít care that much about the bottom line, the diesel is a great indulgence if a bit more nose heavy and even less room under the bonnet though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    ....snip..... I loved the idea of a rugged long lasting diesel but they now have too much temperament ancillary baggage (DPF EGR cooler valve, eolys/adblue) meaning larger service bills .......a belt drive camshaft also V chain (it’s no longer a problem).
    The diesel economy figures simply don’t add up anymore IMO.
    However if you don’t care that much about the bottom line, the diesel is a great indulgence if a bit more nose heavy and even less room under the bonnet though.


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    I must be driving different diesels.....200K+ km's on our 308 2.0HDi.

    They only need cambelt replacement every 9 years or 180K km's. Cheap
    The last check with Diagbox showed the DPF remaining life was about 160K km's. Cheap
    No issues with the EGR. Cheap.
    Eolys has been topped up once since we bought the car brand new. Cheap.

    I'm not sure how you can say HDi ownership doesn't add up.

    Freeway driving with the cruise set to the speed limit regularly returns 4.5 L/100. City driving returns 5.8 L/100

    Seems to me that if you care about the bottom line you're driving a HDi.

    Room under the bonnet ? No problems with our HDi. Oil filter comes straight out the front and doesn't pour oil down the engine like the petrol engine oil filters do. Air cleaner is up the top. No spark plugs to ever attend to - not like a petrol engine. Fuel filter is on top of the engine. I can't think of an engine that's easier to work on and has better access.

    I like these HDi engines so much I've bought a second one. They're way cheaper to run, more reliable and with less maintenance than any petrol engines.

    Lets get the facts out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N5GTi6 View Post
    I must be driving different diesels.....200K+ km's on our 308 2.0HDi.

    They only need cambelt replacement every 9 years or 180K km's. Cheap
    The last check with Diagbox showed the DPF remaining life was about 160K km's. Cheap
    No issues with the EGR. Cheap.
    Eolys has been topped up once since we bought the car brand new. Cheap.

    I'm not sure how you can say HDi ownership doesn't add up.

    Freeway driving with the cruise set to the speed limit regularly returns 4.5 L/100. City driving returns 5.8 L/100

    Seems to me that if you care about the bottom line you're driving a HDi.

    Room under the bonnet ? No problems with our HDi. Oil filter comes straight out the front and doesn't pour oil down the engine like the petrol engine oil filters do. Air cleaner is up the top. No spark plugs to ever attend to - not like a petrol engine. Fuel filter is on top of the engine. I can't think of an engine that's easier to work on and has better access.

    I like these HDi engines so much I've bought a second one. They're way cheaper to run, more reliable and with less maintenance than any petrol engines.

    Lets get the facts out there.

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    Perhaps the difference is that I donít consider 200 as particularly significant .....a million miles is though..
    White goods certainly donít need a diesel engine either.
    Using it as a tractor maybe.





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    Hi all
    Well I didn't find a GT - but I am very happy with my decision to purchase this 2014 508 Allure HDi with 25,000km on the clock - now I just have to wait for it to arrive!!
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    First pictures of the all new one -
    https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...ressive-design


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