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    I just noticed Qld Pug club has a classified add for 1984 Executive 505 for sale. I know nothing about the car, just saw the add

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    As of last week there were three on ‘Carsales.com’ all Victoria if I remember correctly, likewise know nothing about them. Regards Rob


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    That 84 Executive sounds well worth checking out with that mileage on it, with Yokahama tyres it would have 15 inch alloys, it would be the K-Jet fuel injection and have a ZF3HP22 3 speed auto, some people complain that these rev a little high at highway speeds but it's never worried me, if properly serviced they are a good reliable gearbox, good luck with your search.
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    A Standard K Jetronic Executive would have TRX wheels. It always amuses me that the Executive was Peugeot's top model whereas the Holden Executive was the fleet cut price special.

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    I Agree Graham, but the one listed is fitted with Yokahama tyres so would have 15 inch rims
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    The 1970 504 advertised on the Qld page also sounds good! Something else to consider. 504 and 505 are basically the same car underneath, 504 just looks more classic

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    The best 505 is a 504. A LTi that l converted to a manual was probably the toughest car l ever owned except my 404 ute. Gbox was from a donor car that belonged to the French Embassy.

    Seriously, Manual GTi S Wagons a pretty good except a bit gutless. But traverse all surfaces with aplomb. I had a 80 Aussie built 505 that was pretty good.

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    I have a 92 505 GTi wagon unregistered with a fully reconned 4 spd auto that needs a bit of work to re register but is in excellent condition generally that you can have for $1500

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    Thanks again for your posts.

    Very interesting that you should say the best 505 is a 504.

    My son really likes the 504's and said that as I'm ultimately looking for a classic I should get a 504 because its a real classic.

    Maybe I should go 504.

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    Re your concern about parts for 505 models, I have sourced new parts from European Auto Imports in Victoria or used from Pugwreck. So far I have been able to get what I needed. My present 505 is a SRD Turbo which, after driving it for 19 years, I have just listed for sale on Gumtree.

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    I've had a look. I'ts not a bad car, however I'm not ready to buy yet because I've got nowhere to put it. Thanks

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    Hi Alan, as with most subjective things everyone will have view as to whether the 504 or a 505 is a real classic, for me they both are and it's more about you just deciding which one you prefer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew P View Post
    Re your concern about parts for 505 models, I have sourced new parts from European Auto Imports in Victoria or used from Pugwreck. So far I have been able to get what I needed. My present 505 is a SRD Turbo which, after driving it for 19 years, I have just listed for sale on Gumtree.
    By the way, if you buy from Pugwreck never mention it on this forum or she'll never deal with you again. Ask me how I know and Go figure as they say in the USA.
    She hates Aussiefrogs.
    Buy from Pugspares in Qld, it's a whole lot less stressful.
    And in my opinion 504 is nowhere near the car that 505 is for handling , power or comfort. Yes they do look cool but even with 505 struts they don't handle as well at least not with a standard 504 engine. Maybe with a Douvrin or something beefed up to GTI power levels they might come close, I've never had the experience.

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    For what it's worth, I agree. The only thing about 505s which is not quite noticeably superior is the appearance : the square, boxy look of the arse-end. But the "even cooler than 504s" front-end more than makes up for that.
    Handling, suspension, seats, and in particular, rustproofing.....are all superior.

    Oh, I suppose that the dash is less plasticy in 504s too....but series 1 505s have quite ok dashes. The series 2 dash plastics are a bit brittle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luthier View Post
    By the way, if you buy from Pugwreck never mention it on this forum or she'll never deal with you again. Ask me how I know and Go figure as they say in the USA.
    She hates Aussiefrogs.
    Buy from Pugspares in Qld, it's a whole lot less stressful.
    And in my opinion 504 is nowhere near the car that 505 is for handling , power or comfort. Yes they do look cool but even with 505 struts they don't handle as well at least not with a standard 504 engine. Maybe with a Douvrin or something beefed up to GTI power levels they might come close, I've never had the experience.
    I have had a lot of dealings with Pugwreck and found them very good .you must have done something to upset them

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    OK you want to know what I did?
    I rang to buy some lower control arms from late model 504 wagons so I could fit 505 struts on my 504.
    They said they had some. I asked if they could tell me the measurements. They replied that they had been in the business for 40 years or something, that they knew what they had and did I want the parts or not.
    OK I took the hint and ordered them.
    When they arrived I found they were indeed the correct LCA's and I could have kissed them down at Pugwreck.
    I was so happy I started a small thread to thank them right here on Aussiefrogs.
    A few chimed in about good dealings with them and I felt I had thanked them nicely.
    However, no good dead goes unpunished because when I next rang for some bits I was severely reprimanded, cursed and reviled for not asking permission to discuss the sale of parts before revealing them. I was told I was just bragging to my Aussiefrogs mates who I had already been told with several hours of earbashing were losers of various kinds. I won't name names but names were named by her and it was really quite embarrassing.
    I was then given the cold shoulder , requests never found, calls not returned so I got the hint.
    That's not the only time someone has had weird experiences there and though I wasn't going to mention it in public I really couldn't give a flying $h!t now and the ridiculous nature of the antagonism is still remembered and still unforgiven.
    So yeah I definitely did do something to annoy her. I mentioned Aussiefrogs and I posted about them on Aussiefrogs.
    That was my crime. So since they no doubt have a prodigious collection of old Pug stuff I feel it is worth cautioning anyone who buys from them to remain silent on the subject of this forum and just put fingers in ears and go bla bla bla when she starts on about who has shit cars here and who knows nothing and stuff like that.

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    I have to say my few and far between dealings have not been too flash.

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    They prefer to deal with the trade.

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    Then , I wonder why their website has this ?:

    Not your "average" Wrecker
    We are a small business that has specialised in Peugeot repairs and spare parts for over 20 years.
    We use our experience and knowledge to assist you in fixing your Peugeot problems with great parts at reasonable prices.
    We supply lots of those "hard to find" Pug parts for Peugeot Restorations or Modifications
    Hardly the profile of a "trade" wrecker ?
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    People are an odd lot. And let's face it : many French car enthusiasts are a bit odder.

    Not us Peugeot types, of course

    THEM...over there....those Renault guys....

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    My 505SRD turbo manual is presently advertised on Gumtree but it is in WA. If no more interest in next day or two it will go to best current offer for canibalising. Pity, because it is too good for that. I could perhaps be persuaded to deliver to the East mid-late Feb for fuel cost
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    There were two types of Executives, an earlier one based on the STI (slightly softer suspension, K-jet mechanical injection and metric wheels) and a later one on the GTI (stiffer suspension, L-Jet full electronic injection and 15" alloys). Both were badged simply as "Executive".

    Both versions had a standard sunroof and full electric windows. STI types had velour interiors, GTIs leather interiors (and probably needing some moisturising now). They both had beefier squarer bumpers front and rear which toughened up their appearance.

    Both versions had either 5 speed manuals or 3 speed autos. I had an auto Exec and it was the thing that annoyed me most - nice long country drives were always rather noisy with the engine revving around 3700 rpm at 100km/h...

    Colour schemes seemed to be dominated by two-tone grey and silver, although I've seen the odd black one around (which might have been a custom change).

    505s seem to be getting rarer on the roads (along with 405s...) - I hardly see them around anymore. I loved the way mine felt and handled - if you can get hold of one and keep it going it'll be a rewarding experience.
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    Only the early STis had the softer suspension, any car with the 190 width tyres had the stiffer suspension which remained unchanged until the S2 GTi which seemed to be softer again. We had two STi Execs, neither had a sunroof. GTis all had sunroof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS View Post
    We had two STi Execs, neither had a sunroof. GTis all had sunroof.
    Thanks for the correction. My GTi Exec also had 4 electric windows - did the STi Exec have them only at the front or all around?
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    Earlier: 505 GTi Executive '85
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    Electric all around.

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