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    Hi
    The 605 in the For Sale section has peaked my interest. But that one is not for me, it sounds too far gone.

    But the last time I saw a 605 was in France in about 1999. Are there any still on the road?

    Are there any nice, low km ones in the Brisbane area that might be for sale?

    I've been 'floating' along with Citroens for a number of years now, but a 605 has been itching away at my mind since I first read a review on them (it was a comparison with an XM).

    XM's seem to be more readily available but I'm too chicken, hence the 605 enquiry.

    Please be gentle with me, this is my first post on the Peugeot board.

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    Cheers
    Jason

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    There is one member of the Qld Peugeot Club that has a love of the 605, having at least one sedan and a white ute he manufactured. He lives at Redlands and has quite a collection of Peugeots, 403, 404 ute, 504 V6 Cab, 604, 205GTI, probably all of which he has restored and modified himself. If you went to a club meeting or contacted the club, Richard would be easily found.
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    605........Anyone?-dsc01637.jpg605........Anyone?-dsc00504.jpgI owned this one for 11 years, sold it 2010 with 150,000km on it. It was a lot of car! $84,000 on the road 1996! I should have kept it.

    Doubt you would find a good low km 605 car now.

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    I still use my grey Series II 605 regularly, although when I asked on here a year or two ago about others still in use I essentially got no response.

    I was fortunate to find my car in 2009 with only 73,000km at Deepwater - just up the road in FNNSW. Turned out it had lived almost all it's life in Launceston, and was from a deceased estate. Have added about 110,000km since then, and have found it mechanically and electrically reliable. It seemed very underpowered when I first got it and the auto kick-down didn't work - turned out that the throttle cable had way too much free play, limiting it to half-throttle with the pedal to the metal . Have since learned from Goodwins that they all came from the factory like that - so it only took 15 years to complete the pre-delivery service!!

    In fact the most annoying (and initially hard to diagnose) problem was the distributor cap. Car would start fine, but mis-fire badly when warmed up. Second-hand replacement also failed . Other than that, it's been pretty much just had regular maintenance (brake disks and pads, radiator cooling fans, mufflers in addition to oil changes).

    Although mine is rather rough in the body, and I never managed to get the sun-hardened leather seats back to a soft and supple condition, it is a great long-legged touring car which I always enjoy driving, and have no plans to sell.

    Have to agree with BigRR - it would now be very hard to find a good low-km example - remember only 48(?) were officially imported (plus an unknown number of private imports).

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    No too much downside risk at $500.

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    Aside from parts availability, and assuming there are no hidden surprises, it sounds as the work required is well within many on this forum. $500 'aint much and someone could end up with a very nice car.
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    For the XM, Citroen has deleted a lot of parts in the last couple of years. I gather the 605 is the same. The things that worry me most about the 12 Valve V6 engine are the water pump (fortunately I now have a spare) and the convoluted cooling hoses, which would break the bank even if available. The motor itself is surprisingly solid despite the reputation of it's parents in 604/Volvos. My XM's top hose ($300++) would expand like a balloon had I not strapped it at the water pump end. It seems to be a weak point, but the plan is to follow addo's 605 example and replace with generic bits. Similarly, the now non-available hydraulic return lines need re-engineering, but that's an issue, like front strut mount problem, that a 605 owner will never face.

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    Only 49 605s sold in Australia. The XM outsold it, I believe.

    It's a small pool.
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    Were those 605's all 12 Valve PRV V6 with the 4HP18 4 speed? XM from 1997 changed to the 24 Valve ES9 V6 with the 4HP20 4 speed and sales slowed down a lot in later years. It wouldn't be much into 3 figures for a decade's sales.

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    Sale years were 1994-1996 - all UFZ (ZPJ) motors, as far as I can tell, so no 24 valvers locally.

    BigRR's post has the specs in the first attachment
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    The XM was sold here as a v6 auto 1990-2000, so on a yearly basis the 605 easily outsold the XM as might be expected.

    The 24 Valve ES9 version of the XM has that extra power that the PRV versions really wanted. Against that, the gearbox is the more fragile 4HP20 with an internal filter you can't clean.

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    1 arrived in 1991 (evaluation, most likely)
    1994: 18
    1995: 22
    1996: 8
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    Hello
    Thanks for all the feedback. With so very few 605 sold in Australia and not surprising given an eye watering new price, I think this will be a box that will remain un-ticked for me.

    But I'll be watching, just in case.

    Cheers
    Jason

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