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    Hi all,

    It's been a while since I've been on as my 206 gti was written off

    I've just purchased a 2007 207 HDi,
    It's a 1 owner vehicle with service history every 20,000kms from Wayville Peugeot and has now done 140,000kms.

    It's under full statutory warranty for the next 2 months from the dealer.

    Is there anyway I can check the eloys fluid level via the ecu? And the condition of the FAP? Or recommend someone in Adelaide to check?

    I've been reading a few stories about DPF/FAP faults etc.

    The service book also states the FAP be replaced at the 180,000km service?

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    Anything else I should check before the warranty runs out?

    Also what's a rough estimate for the timing belt and water pump to be replaced?

    Thanks in advance

    Sean

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    hi
    I have 207 turbo diesel with 130000 km and there are no problems with it .
    I always had service done every 10000 not 20000.
    timing belt should have been done at 120k.make sure it is been done.
    check the brake rotors front and back to see if there is a big lip on them ,than .they are due to be replaced
    drive on non smooth road and see if there is any noises and rattles
    mine is a wagon which has a bit better ride than the hatch.
    your are going to enjoy not visiting the petrol station weekly..
    unless you have long drive .mine does 6.5 l per 100 km in the city with aircon.less than 5 on the freeway
    all the best with it don't push it too hard just cruise and it will go many km
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    hi
    forgot to mention the timing belt which is done at 120k cost me
    5 hours labor @100 dollars=500 dollars
    all part including water pump around 500 dollars
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    Thanks for the reply, the book states timing belt needs replacing at 180,000kms? So i guess thats for the overseas model then?

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    hi
    as far as i know the the 1.6 diesel turbo timing belt is to be done at 120k the 2l which is for the 307 308 and 407 at 180k
    my service was done at a good French motor mechanic in Sydney. he knows very well what he is doing.i think u should look in the service book from this car if it was done and find out from the dealer u bought it from.i will look tonight in my hand book to make sure I am not wrong.
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    The timing belt interval for the 207 diesel, from local introduction in 2006, was always 180,000km/9 years.

    At some point (I think with the intro of the 407) they declared all diesels with a FAP (particle filter) to be 180k/9yrs, so it's not the size of the motor but the tech, i.e. Euro 5 emissions, perhaps.

    Here's a saved version of a year 2008 pdf. Page 3 refers:

    Peugeot Service Intervals
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    2014 208 GTi 2011 DS3 DSport
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    2007 207 GTi 2004 206 GTi180 2000 206 GTi 1995 306 XT

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    Thanks for the information regarding timing belt, its due for it then being over 9 years. Just have to find someone in adelaide to do it for a good price.

    Jarvis Peugeot qouted $3k+ for the major service.....

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    I'll 2nd servicing every 10000km's. Oil and Filter is very important to keep these engines clean. The confusing book even recommends it, as do a lot of Pug specialists and smart people at the dealerships. The textbook people at the dealerships that just read the marketing BS will say 20000km's is fine which unfortunately some new cars buyers want to actually here. Apparently 1 year 10000km service intervals is now a deal breaker for many new cars buyers. They want 2 years 20000kms.
    Oil and Filter isn't that much if you supply it yourself. Just finding the right mechanic at the right price will be the trick.
    Make sure you(or the mechanic) uses the correct spec oil.
    The engine is supposed to use ACEA C2 spec plus PSA B712290.
    It took me a lot of stuffing around to get the original Total Quartz Ineo ECS 5W30 which is the factory oil. Got it from Perth and I'm in Sydney.
    See here Hdi engine oil specs
    Nulon now make an oil available at Supercheap that supposedly meats PSA B712290. Nulon Fully Synthetic 0W-30.
    I also believe Penrite DL-1 is popular here.
    At a minimum the oil should at least specified for DPF's.

    As others are saying the timing belt is 180000km's or 9 years.
    I would do the water pump at this time as well while it is opened up.
    I'm timing my 2008 HDi Lemans for 10 years/100000km's just because I like nice round numbers. Plus I'm talking build date, not first purchased date, as that wasn't until 2010!!!

    If you don't know if the fuel filter or air filter has been changed, get that done as well. From what I've seen on YouTube, you have to practically pull half the air intake piping out to get to the fuel filter so you just do both together roughly every 40000kms or so.
    Note that the fuel filter is also a water separator. Letting it go to long just risks water getting to the injectors. There is a way to drain the filter, but again, that means pulling a part air piping and repriming the diesel system so you almost may as well just change it.

    Can't help with where you can get work done at reasonable rates in Adelaide.
    Hopefully some SA people can help with that.

    Regarding warranty.
    Pay attention to if you get any airbag or seatbelt pre-tensioner faults. Should warn you on the centre screen and the dash. Mine does it on of occasion, maybe once a month then after you restart the car goes away. Others according to google are a bit more terminal.
    Also pay attention to anti pollution faults, which is PSA speak for pretty much anything from A to Z is wrong and you need to plug in a scan tool to see what it really is.

    The only other thing I can think of with those K's on these cars, is front strut mounts.
    There should be no play or knocking like my sisters C2 had. She just thought the car was getting old. C2 has pretty much the same design.
    If there is play or noise the mount is on its way out or already broken, and needs to be replaced before ruining the shocks as well.
    Again cheap if you have the right mechanic. Non standard tools required.
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    Wow thanks for all the information, ive just picked up a new oil filter from the dealer but the oil they gave me is Total Quartz INEO First 0w 30? Is that right? I questioned them about it and they said thats what the book recommends.

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    As stated the 1.6 HDI engine is super-sensitive about oil spec and oil changes. Not only can you ash clog the engine with the wrong stuff, but you can terminate the expensive turbocharger. PSA have issued warnings and bulletins about this, as have turbo repairers.

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    No worries, so the oil Peugeot sold me is incorrect then?

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    NO, the Total INEO First is a newer oil than the Total INEO ECS we were all previously advised to use in our Pug diesels. it is still low SAPS and is still suitable for Peugeot Diesels, the Total website says it is the oil used by Peugeot for new car oil fills and refilling.

    QUARTZ INEO FIRST 0W-30 | TOTAL lubricants catalogue

    And yes, DO change the oil at 10,000 km intervals. These particular 1.6 HDi engines are even more fussy than most new engines about clean oil. I changed my car's oil every 10,000 km and when I sold my car with over 220000 on the clock its engine was as good as new. They are a beautiful little engine and superbly economical but you have to look after them just right or they will bite you hard.

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    Thanks, ill definitely be changing the oil every 10,000kms or earlier.

    Sorry if my questions were a bit dumb :s

    Im used to working on Japanese petrol turbo engines so its all a bit new to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simca1100 View Post
    NO, the Total INEO First is a newer oil than the Total INEO ECS we were all previously advised to use in our Pug diesels. it is still low SAPS and is still suitable for Peugeot Diesels, the Total website says it is the oil used by Peugeot for new car oil fills and refilling.

    QUARTZ INEO FIRST 0W-30 | TOTAL lubricants catalogue
    I was aware of the dealers now using Ineo First 0W-30. But they need to keep up to date for the latest cars.
    The only reason I didn't mention Ineo First was because it doesn't even mention the PSA B712290 standard.
    I have also not found anything about PSA B712312 replacing the older PSA B712290 spec.
    I always read it that PSA B712290 was for EOLYS equipped PSA cars and PSA B712313 was for Ad-Blue Equipped cars.
    Please correct me if PSA B712313 covers both.

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    Re the turbo and oil changes in the DV6 engine, this may be of interest FAQ : 110 : C4 1.6 HDi Oil Changing and Turbo Failure - C4 - DS4 Owners
    Looked after, the engine is good for very many km. The 2.0 series of HDI engines are a different design, and a little less fussy, but still require low ash oil.

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    Well i ended up grabbing the proper recommended oil and doing the filter yesterday. Followed the recommended instructions to change it all.

    The old oil was really thick but clean but when replacing the oil filter i noticed alot of magnetic metal shavings in the filter housing.. about a teaspoon worth.

    So i cleaned it all out and ran some new oil for 50kms and dropped it to clean it out and found more metal in the Drain pan but not as much.

    I put another new filter and oil in and now its developed a serious knock that changes with RPM almost like a spun bearing...

    Its going back to the dealer as it's under warranty but he told me i should just put thicker oil in......

    Let the fun and games begin

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