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    306 Wheel Upgrade 16"

    Was wondering what brand wheels in 16" people have used on the 306. Also what sized tyre they used. Any Pug 16" wheels for a 306?

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    Im gettin 16" MAK spirit rims for my 306 fitted with Falkens tomorrow, i'll keep you posted. From what i've read 16" are a good size but 17" are too big but can still fit with ill-effect however, would this be a fair assumption?

    Anyway i'll let you know tomorrow how my rims and tyres went, today would be a good day to test them due to very rainy conditions.

    Im assuming however that since you have a gti that it came standard with those pug rims, 15" i think? how do those feel, ive always liked the look of them (how they good dip in giving it a bowl effect)

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    Yeah the wheel/tyre combo P6000's work well but I was thinking for the fact that a 205-215/50/16 tyre are a lot more common and possibly the same price as the rarer 195/55/15. Also the fact that I can go anywhere for a wheel balance rather than trying to find places that do on-car.

    How much are you spending on your wheel/tyre package? Let me know how the tyre size and how she handles afterwards. Also you what 306 do you have and is it std suspension set-up?

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    Kristian, from what I've heard changing sizes from 195/55R15 on the GTi6 does not do the handling any favours. So I wouldn't recommend going to 205 50 R 15 or anything like that.

    You can check with Peugeot as there are 16" rims that you could option on to the 306.

    Otherwise, I think there are still enough good tyres available in 195 55. The P6000s are rubbish, IMO. I'm running Dunlop FM901s (around $175) which are great. You can get Yoko AVS ES100s ($175), Toyos ($170), Kumho Ecsta 712s ($120), Bridgestone Potenza GIIIs, Pirelli P7s, Goodyear Revspecs, Michelin Pilot Precedas ($220 at least), BF Goodrich (Owned by Michelin and built in the Michelin plant in France) Profiler G ($180). So there's still plenty of choice there, you just can't get things like the Bridgestone SO3s, Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s, Michelin Pilot Sports, etc, in that size.

    If you go up a size you will pay more for tyres in the end, and risk ruining the ride of a great car. I've had problems balancing the wheels, as I have an LSD fitted, but Bob Jane at Drummoyne keep trying for me and we're getting there. Otherwise, find some XSi rims, which is what Tekkie did for his Yoko A008Rs (R spec tyre).
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    places to go to in sydney that have wheels for a 306 are

    bob jane
    in look tyers at silverwater
    australias best at lakemba

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    eek! Must be living under a rock hey, I thought the P6000s were good. Well when I get some decent tyres I'll be even more impressed with the handling.

    What are the Khumo's like as $120 sounds cheap!

    What would be the best wearing tyre out of the bunch obviously sacrificing some handling capability.

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    I'd say the Revspecs would be the best wearing. They're not a strong performance tyre.

    The Kumhos are good value, I'm yet to hear of anyone running them on a Peugeot though. I got quoted $115 for them from Blacktown. They get decent comments, they're an average tyre. I would still say they would be better than P6000 though.
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    the peugeot performance enhancement options for the 306 lists a 16"x7" wheel for all 306's including the GTi-6 and the recomended tyre fitment size is 205/45/ZR16 87W PZERO A
    albeit a pirelli which i am not a fan of but i'm sure peugeot wouldn't have it on a brochure if it wasn't suited to a car
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    What Peugeots had 16" from factory that would suit the 306? Didn't think there were any.

    Or was there an factory option for the 306 when new? Would dealers be flogging these off question

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    Yes they were available as a dealer option. he Gti6 used in Motor a year or so ago as a used review had the 16s on it.
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    The revspec's are top tyres, i've got a set on my S16 and they are fantastic. Had them for 14 thou kms and heaps of tread left, until the F1 GS they were goodyear's best road tyre, the normal F1 are only good in a large diamater as the smaller ones are not made in japan (some quality issues so im told).

    Don't want to piss in ya pocket but id save the money on rims and buy good tyres instead, my 2_cents

    There's no such thing as cheap tyres, choose the wrong ones and you have to put up with it for 20,000 + kms

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    Yeah, Scott, I agree. The 15s do suit the GTi6 just perfectly. Good to hear some feedback on the Revspecs. Just to clarify, there are new Goodyear GS-D3s, which are different to the GS-D2s which are OEM on 206 GTi and many cars. A lot of people hae these tyres and they get mostly mixed reviews, none of which are overly impressive. Whilst the new GS-D3 won the EVO test about a year ago. I would tend to recommend the Revspecs over the GS-D2s from all I've heard.
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    Ok so ive given my new set of wheel & tyres a bit of a run, and am impressed but by not a great deal. The rims are 16X7 and fit "just" but look awesome(pics up soon), only on huge bumps at high speed will they scrape. The tyres i got a Falken azenis st115 205/50, i think tyre wise 205/45 would have been better. These tyres are quite good but only at 60kms+, city driving with these tyres just make the car feel heavy as they really do grip the road, at high speed the car is stuck to the ground (i know this is a common description but it is true) and nothing changes in the wet, i had a lot of fun testing that out.

    My knowledge of tyres is minimal and for all i know what im saying could be totally wrong, but i do notice the diffrence from a set of 175 michelin certis's eheheh

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    Be careful with the 205/50's. You will be going faster than what your speedo says and you may find yourself in trouble.

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    Be careful with the 205/50's. You will be going faster than what your speedo says and you may find yourself in trouble.
    AHAH yeah i know im going to change them so it'll be all good shortly.

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    thats wat i have on my 306 205/50 i fine them good but everytime i go over a hump i have 2 slow right down
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    jfn306:
    thats wat i have on my 306 205/50 i fine them good but everytime i go over a hump i have 2 slow right down
    Johnny,
    but you have 15" wheels, not 16" like purrr-geot. 15" and 205/50 gives almost the correct diameter. 16" and 205/50 gives a rolling diameter way out so the speedo will be quite a way out.

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    Ladies and gentlemen, I believe it is time to resurrect THE thread: <a href="http://www.aussiefrogs.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000278" target="_blank">Tyres for GTi6</a>

    By the way, I have BF Goodrich Profiler Gs on my 306. (FYI they are made in Spain, not France.) They initially wear quite quickly, but settle in to a longer-lasting wear rate after 10000k's or so. In the dry they are quite nice and fun (I don't have enough tyre experience to compare for outright grip, but they are quite progressive when they begin to let go.) They don't seem to be quite as good now in the wet as they were when I first got them, though Though that might be more due to recent Melbourne weather behaviour (drought-downpour-drought-downpour, etc.)

    Would I buy them again? Yeah, probably, but not without considering other options first.
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    Yup Derek is right,

    The rolling diameter of 205/50/15 is virtually identical to 195/55/15.
    I find it puzzling you are having scraping problems though. I had no such problems even with 4 people in the car.
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    Rek, the last review I read of the Profiler G in Motor said that they were in France...maybe only in some sizes? Strange...how can a magazine get it so wrong?? wink Oh, it's only 9:45 and my sarcasm has kicked in, must be the lack of sleep.

    Here's a cool tool to work out the different circumferences and speed differences between tyre sizes.

    <a href="http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html" target="_blank">http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html</a>

    So going from a 195 55 R 15 (I'm using this as I don't know what the 306 XT normally runs on it's 14s, and the 15s should be the same rolling speed) to 205 50 R 16 would result in your speedo being out by 2.7%. The speedo would be indicating 100kph when you are actually doing 102.7kph.

    It'd make sense with an inch in tyre/wheel height that you'd be scraping.
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    ok so i'd like some confirmation on this

    16" rims with 205/45 is the way to go?

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    yep, that's right. Depending on the widthof the rim too...i'm assuming it's a 7" wide rim.
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