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    Now is the time to put plates and brackets for inertia reel front seat belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Tippett View Post
    I wish I could take credit for this, Peter! But I am only paying for it. Coachwerks of Victoria BC Canada is the restorer of the shell. Their work is really excellent!


    You can certainly take a lot of the credit. It's your visions, organizing, knowledge, gathering parts and paying for repairs that make it happen.

    I am green with envy (in a good way). Great effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Tippett View Post
    I wish I could take credit for this, Peter! But I am only paying for it. Coachwerks of Victoria BC Canada is the restorer of the shell. Their work is really excellent!
    Well okay, I kinda knew that.

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    I'm going to stick with old school floppy lap belts. The rear seating area will get proper seat belt mounts too.
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    Mike,

    I totally agree with Fivedoor, it's your project and dream. Like your approach to originality as well, right down to lap sash seat belts.

    The floors look great...

    Cheers,

    Dano
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    Peugeot 404 Coupé at Coachwerks

    This is a link to the project as it progresses. Feel free to watch every once in while for updates. The page starts on the "arrival", but for the good stuff, click on "update 1" which will bring you to Tuesday January 31st.
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    Wow Mike,

    Those photos are impressive for many reasons. The extent of the rust damage, but more importantly the detail and extent of the fabrication and repair to remove it.

    Until someone has done the same, it is hard to really understand the true extent of what you have achieved and what was required to rectify the damage.

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    Dan, if you can believe it, I have seen far worse cars restored! For example, some where the inner sill reinforcements with the round holes in them have totally disintegrated!

    My thoughts on car condition is that most 404Cs look like mine inside the sills unless it has had a recent photo-documented restoration. What I mean is that I could have bought a "mint condition" 404 Coupé in Europe for 35,000 Euros, brought it home and still wondered where the metal worm was slowly destroying the shell.

    This way, by taking a $500 car (that's what I paid in 1989), spending 100 times that on its restoration, I will have a totally known quantity. This car is not for resale and won't be as long as I am alive, but it should last another 50 years or more after this work. Money well spent in my opinion.

    You would know that, Dan, as you'll probably have the best 404 sedan after your amazing restoration!
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    The new right rear guard is welded onto the car. The rear jack mount and part of the inner guard were just rebuilt. Looking good! This external guard was severely rusted before the transplant. I found the rear guards from a Peugeot service point in Williamsburg, Ontario in 2004. Under $500 each, cheap!

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    Wednesday 8 Feb: New left rear guard is now welded on, after the jack mount and nearby area were rebuilt with the old guard removed. Three rectangular holes in the dash cut after the car was new are all filled with new metal, to be replaced by a single round wiper switch as per the original.

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    Did you have to refabricate the actual jacking points or did you have originals? From experience, they are dicky things to remake. Many hours of work with various size dollies and an assortment of hammers.

    It's looking good Mike, keep the photos coming.

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    Dan, I had the new jack mounts, which you can see below in the attached photo, but all the other parts in that image except the original NOS panel on the far left were made in the workshop by Coachwerks.


    Wiper frame is de-rusted and repainted in Rust-oleum and the two new wiper spindles (unique design for the 404C so I was lucky to get a pair) are remounted. The wiper motor drive axle is the original but after flushing it with Würth HHS it was as smooth as butter. Greased it up and mounted it back together.


    The cover of the AEG fuel pump was rusty and needed a good quality of hard paint because it's clamped on by a wire that uses friction and sits in the dimple of the cover. So I bought some silver POR-15 and applied it by brush. with only 83,000 miles on the car, the electrical part of the pump is in good condition. I will take the hydraulic part apart and regrease it.


    The framework of the AEG/Kugelfischer pump was also very rusty but now looks better and is painted in silver POR-15 applied by brush.
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    Thanks Mike,

    The POR range of paints are good. What I like most, is how it levels out after brushing on. I must admit, they said it would, but I was sceptical. The Glisten Gloss is good on aluminium bits and pieces. I had the axle tubs, diff housing and gearbox casings wet blasted, then coated in Glisten. They came up a treat. Not original I know, but they do look better then the daggy underbody bitumen black.

    Cheers.

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    These photos were taken Friday around 5 PM. *Major front end surgery is underway!

    Front guards are cut off!



    Detail of cowl panel, not rusty at all inside.



    Inner guard panel was not in that bad of a condition, some repair was required near the bottom.



    Dashboard with three rectangular holes gone and one round hole for the new - original type - wiper/washer switch!



    Taillights fit, good!



    Drilled out spot welds and removed outer McPherson strut tower skin.



    Repair panels welded into the nose panel on both sides.



    Interesting perspective!
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    Mike
    It is amazing isn't, where you find rust. You won't regret going the extra yard, to find it all. It is quite scary though, how far you have to go sometimes. With all those overlapping sections, it could be a lot worse. I guess the factory theory was, ah well, no one will ever keep one of these for ever, so just cover everything with seam sealer. The worst rust in my car was where the seam sealer hid the sins.
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    is that auto or manual?

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    C3 manual with Nardi floor shifter. None of the C models had auto.
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    I made a visit to Coachwerks on Friday:







    for detailed photos of the work done in the past two weeks, go here: Update 2
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    Nice P1800 (?) in the background. Your pics are great and the progress is fantastic. You must be really pleased to see it coming along so well after such a long wait.
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    Great photos Mike. They have done a lot in a short time. Making patches is so time consuming.

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    Friday afternoon I visited*Coachwerks.



    The new front crossmember is on, some significant repairs were needed on the driver's side inner fender and that fender is now tacked in place, with fine-tuning and possible future adjustments to follow. Next week I have to take the rubber seals down for panel alignment purposes, as well as the grille.





    The old front crossmember didn't look all that bad but when it was off, the bodyman in the photo above showed it to me and shook it, and it sounded just like a Maraca

    They will be painting the front brake drum backing plates, the Hydrovac vacuum tank and the air inlet grille. I will repaint the brake drums myself in manifold paint. I had them blasted at Blast-it in Victoria today and I even did the vacuum tank blasting myself!
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    Hi Mike,

    I'm possibly putting the cart before the horse, but have you any idea what colour you will be repainting it?

    Cheers,

    Dan

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    Paint will be Bleu Fonce 1057 (with this iPad I can't get the accent aigu on the e), which is a medium to dark blue. It's far better than the refrigerator white the car was originally. I even have the assent of the dealer employees who sold the car when it was new to change the colour!
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    March 24th, left front guard is welded on; other side will be done next week, and then some final welding and metal trimming will be done before paint preparation begins.


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    If anyone has a new or used (in good condition) strut nut like the one in the middle of this photo, I would like to buy it.

    It's from 1964-66 models only. The nut on the left is from a 1963 model sedan - the middle nut is from my 1966 Coupé - and the nut on the right is from all 404s from 1967 onwards.

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