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    Default 604 wiper/headlight switch

    How does this switch come out? The only thing holding it in as far as I can see is a thing that only turns a small amount. My problem is that the wipers won't turn off and I figured the switch is as good a place as anywhere to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ropes
    How does this switch come out? The only thing holding it in as far as I can see is a thing that only turns a small amount. My problem is that the wipers won't turn off and I figured the switch is as good a place as anywhere to start.

    that thing you can see is it something you can turn with a normal screw driver ?

    what you have to do is turn in the do up direction and the switch will come away and drop into your hands

    if you try and undo the little screw it will only tighten up and the switch will stay in place

    the screw is captive and hence works back to front

    hope that helps you remove the switch
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    Got it out thanks but as it's very much a sealed unit I'm no better off.
    Any thoughts on what could prevent the wipers turning off?
    I've wired a switch across the fuse terminals but it means the heater fan and radio don't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ropes
    Got it out thanks but as it's very much a sealed unit I'm no better off.
    Any thoughts on what could prevent the wipers turning off?
    I've wired a switch across the fuse terminals but it means the heater fan and radio don't work.

    you don't have another switch to try on it ?
    try pushing the end of the stick a little harder than you normally would and see how that goes
    the turning motion for the wipers just hits on the contacts in the swtch to activate the wipers and as such may just stay in contact
    late 504 switches are pretty much the same BTW but just check to make sure
    if all else fails try and spray some contact cleaner into the switch and shake it around a little and let it drain and see how that goes

    to be honest i have never had a 604 switch fail on me yet
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    They are identical to the late 504 switch, I'm sure... and I've certainly had one of them fail on me. Though I've forgotten exactly what it was that didn't work... it's a long time ago.

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    Is it possible the microswitch within the motor is shorted? Or the cam that is supposed to open it is broken?

    Just a thought.


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    i'll get unfer the house tomorrow and dig one out and have a close look at it

    i might even have one in the glovebox as i tend to keep things like that and ignition switches in there just in case

    yet to ever use one
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    i'll get unfer the house tomorrow and dig one out and have a close look at it

    i might even have one in the glovebox as i tend to keep things like that and ignition switches in there just in case

    yet to ever use one
    What do you keep in the boot? Spare diffs, axles, brake boosters etc?

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    Oh and while you're under the house, see if you have any brake pads with some life left in them.

    It's a hell of a disadvantage living in a flat. I reckon I could get my hands on a spare car if I had somewhere to put it.

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    if i go away on a trip i carry a spare fuel pump and an dissy in the boot along with the normal hoses and belts and relays

    i'll see what i have in the way of pads but i don't think they are very dear new and they last an awful long time

    i wouldn't mind another spares car just for a few bits here and there

    i wouldn't scrap one that is good in the body but one that is rusted away i find a little easier

    good 604's are becoming very rare
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    There's another one in my town with a dead transmission. I'll find out what the rest of it is like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ropes
    There's another one in my town with a dead transmission. I'll find out what the rest of it is like.

    any idea on what year model it is ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    if i go away on a trip i carry a spare fuel pump and an dissy in the boot along with the normal hoses and belts and relays

    i'll see what i have in the way of pads but i don't think they are very dear new and they last an awful long time

    i wouldn't mind another spares car just for a few bits here and there

    i wouldn't scrap one that is good in the body but one that is rusted away i find a little easier

    good 604's are becoming very rare
    Mine has a reasonable body if anyone is interested.
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    Just quickly back to the windscreen wipers not turning off - I've had this problem numerous times in my 505. I would try everything I could with the windscreen wiper stalk, push it, twist it etc and nothing would stop them. In the 505 the wipers are on the same fuse as the indicators so what wasn't an option. Mine would eventually turn off, although you'd never know how long it would take.

    The other day it happened again when I did a 'squirt and wipe' after washing the car at one of those places with a high pressure hose. I've discovered if I thump the weather strip on the bonnet a few times it seems to fix it up. I guess there is water getting into something down there and shorting it out?
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    What a great quote! Where did you find that?

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    For a good pro-Peugeot quote, have a look for an item in Miscellaneous Ramblings in Road & Track circa 1977...

    It was about endurance tyre testing by Kleber, who said something like:

    "For endurance testing we use Peugeot because we find them to provide the most consistent results over many hundreds of thousands of kilometres."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 505604
    njm

    What a great quote! Where did you find that?

    Andrew
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    great to hear Andrew

    How far away is it from bieng back on the road ?
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    Ropes I can tell you it is not the switch at all. I've had the same thing happen to my 604 after giving it a tub,took me ages to track it down . Its the time delay relay for the washer wiper switch, and it is a bugger of a thing to get to. The best way is ti take the dash off and the relay is right under the windsreen on the right hand side of the instrument cluster. If you dont want to change it you may be able to get your fingers up and disconnect it. Your wipers will still work but the wiper washer will only do one sweep when activated instead of about three.
    Good luck

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    I'll give it a try next time I'm feeling adventurous. No prob with the washers behaving differently - never use 'em as no water comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    i'll get unfer the house tomorrow and dig one out and have a close look at it

    i might even have one in the glovebox as i tend to keep things like that and ignition switches in there just in case

    yet to ever use one
    Hi pugrambo,

    You don't have an ignition switch to fit a Series 2 505 GTi do you? One in good nick that you're prepared to part with I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yawood
    Hi pugrambo,

    You don't have an ignition switch to fit a Series 2 505 GTi do you? One in good nick that you're prepared to part with I mean.

    sorry Bruce i don't have any 505 bits

    if i did you would be welcome to it

    i can keep my ears open for you though and see if one turns up
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    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    How far away is it from bieng back on the road ?
    Hi Sean
    I collected the engine today from Reid's at Cowra - they've bored the block etc. My mechanic just has to put it all together now and i'm back on the road in the proper lion, not the imitation that i've been driving for the last 12 months!

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