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    Default Weird clanging, grinding noise

    Lately when trying to start the car, the starter motor will occasionally seem to labour as if the battery's going flat, and then as it turns the motor over, there's a grinding noise followed by a clang (this is the best way I can describe it...). The engine usually doesn't start when this happens, but if I perservere and keep trying amid the grinding and clanging, then the engine does eventually get going. Is this a sign that the starter motor's on its way out?

    Prior to this happening, the starter would sometimes not work when I turn the key; I'd just hear a "click" as the solenoid engages or whatever, but the engine would not turn over. I would have to repeat this up to 3 times before the starter would work. It happened the other day as well after I'd stopped the car straight after a run on the freeway. I imagine it wasn't happy with the heat, because after sitting with the electric fan running for a few minutes to cool things down a bit, the car started fine.

    So yeah, I'm guessing it's the starter motor but I'd like to hear some other opinions before I go get the one sitting in the 505 out at pick-a-part.

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    Default Starter motor removal

    Richard,

    If you have to pull out the starter, don't do it the hard way like I did. Progressively replace the 4 cross-member bolts with longer ones (604 head bolts are the right length), and then drop the cross-member to get better access to the starter.

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    I have to drop the cross-member to get the starter out?!? That's just typical isn't it The Haynes manual doesn't mention anything about having to do major surgery. I haven't really had a good look at where the starter is fitted though.

    I might wait until next week to do this stuff then, I'm still recovering after the work I did to the car last weekend...

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    Could be the starter isn't being thrown onto the coggs too, the bang and grinding sounds, which is probably the starter motor failing and not engaging..

    ah what do i know :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverexec
    I have to drop the cross-member to get the starter out?!? That's just typical isn't it The Haynes manual doesn't mention anything about having to do major surgery. I haven't really had a good look at where the starter is fitted though.

    I might wait until next week to do this stuff then, I'm still recovering after the work I did to the car last weekend...

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    Richard,

    Jason needed to replace the starter motor on his Exec either last year or the year before. I remember after much cursing he managed to get the car going and threw it at a mechanic to do .

    I'll ask him tonight though if he has any tips for you.
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    Sounds like the starter to me.
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