306 into 205 does go...
  • Register
  • Help
Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Gold Coast
    Posts
    105

    Default 306 into 205 does go...

    Hi guys have the chance of a cheap 306 2lt. Aside from the rear beam , what will fit on my 205 GTI? I'll be going Mi16 with it as already have a complete 405 donor.
    Will the 306 braking system fit the 205 and is it an upgrade?
    I've seemed to have slightly warped the front discs on mine even tho they were skimmed a couple of thousand kays ago.
    Thanks in advance
    Martin

    Advertisement

  2. #2
    1000+ Posts Isis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    1,100

    Default

    I am not sure on the condition of your 205 but recognise that if it is an original and complete car, it may end up much more valuable staying that way.
    S3 205 GTI x 4 and getting lower
    1998 S1 Lotus Elise
    2013 Fiesta ST
    2014 Audi SQ5

  3. #3
    1000+ Posts
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    1,733

    Default

    306 (266mm) disc and calipers will fit latest S3 hubs otherwise no.
    87 S1 205 GTI / GTI6 powered a project underway
    306 convertible (gti6 candidate)
    307 HDi wagon
    407 HDi wagon

  4. #4
    1000+ Posts schlitzaugen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    loneliness capital of the world
    Posts
    9,008

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    306 (266mm) disc and calipers will fit latest S3 hubs otherwise no.
    Or Si hubs.
    ACHTUNG ALLES LOOKENPEEPERS

    Das computermachine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitssparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken bei das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen hands in das pockets-relaxen und watch das blinkenlights.

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Gold Coast
    Posts
    105

    Default

    To be honest, if I wanted return on investment I'd not have bought a 205! It is pretty original and in great nick but I'm not looking to retire on it, so I'll make it as much fun to drive while I own it. It's a phase 1 so it doesn't look like the brakes will fit then? If it's just the axle that will fit (abet with modification), then maybe the 306 isn't cheap enough. My beam has no signs to play (yet!) so was really just looking for a beam I could reno in my own time to have as a spare. If there are no other crossover parts then I'll maybe keep the peugeot stable to two cars...
    Thanks for the input fellas


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

  6. #6
    1000+ Posts
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    1,733

    Default

    Martin, as is being discussed the beam is something you could do in a weekend, its not that hard. The longer it goes the more risky it becomes. I found one side of mine the bearings started to rust and ruined that side, the other side is the same as the day they put it together.

    Get the bits,ask for advice and make a puller and it a real easy thing to do, the Poms have it tough with salt on the roads that corrodes everything. We have it easy.
    87 S1 205 GTI / GTI6 powered a project underway
    306 convertible (gti6 candidate)
    307 HDi wagon
    407 HDi wagon

  7. #7
    1000+ Posts PeterT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2000
    Location
    Castle Hill, Sydney
    Posts
    7,483

    Default

    Engine
    Gearbox
    Front brakes (with Si hubs & standard shafts)
    Front hubs & shocks (if you re-bore to correct the camber)
    Inner & outer cv joints
    Rear brakes & hubs
    Master cylinder & booster

    Notice I didn't say trailing arms. You get a much better result swapping the hubs/brakes over to your GTi arms.
    Last edited by PeterT; 10th September 2016 at 05:45 PM.

    '92 205 Mi16
    '90 Mi16x4

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Gold Coast
    Posts
    105

    Default

    Excellent info. Am now tempted to fill the front yard up with another French "classic"!
    So the gearbox I'm presuming is going to be a BE3. When I change the engine over to the Mi16, which gearbox is going to be better, the one from the 405 or the 306? My 205 (BE1) has a slight crunch into second so that won't be going in.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

  9. #9
    1000+ Posts
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    1,733

    Default

    Be prepared for electrical changes going from L jetronic (discrete parts) to integrated Motronic closed loop, not for the faint hearted if you don't like electrical work..
    87 S1 205 GTI / GTI6 powered a project underway
    306 convertible (gti6 candidate)
    307 HDi wagon
    407 HDi wagon

  10. #10
    1000+ Posts PeterT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2000
    Location
    Castle Hill, Sydney
    Posts
    7,483

    Default

    Good question about the gearbox. The ratios are nice and close in the 306 but it has a long cwp. It's also a bit newer. XSi ratios with the Mi16 4.43:1 cwp would be my pick. You definitely need a 1.9L Mi16 clutch.

    I'd definitely consider using the 306 front hubs (with alignment correction). That way you can use any brakes, late model CV joints etc.

    '92 205 Mi16
    '90 Mi16x4

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •