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    How do you know when its stuffed and needs rebuilding?

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    My green car has done 156Kms and I am not sure if it has ever been rebuilt. Car seems to corner OK and doesn't make any weird noises except for the occasional clunk in a tight, slow corner. The rear also sounded squeaky after bringing it down off the jack. Clues?
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    I guarantee it will need rebuilding. Water makes it past the seal regardless.

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    Easiest way to test it Ash is to..

    Jack up one side on a sturdy jack
    Grab the wheel at 9-3 oclock
    Try to move the wheel with medium to hars force in all directions
    Left right, up down, up left , down left etc.

    If theres any movement at all its stuffed. (Bearings anyway).

    As Peter said, its more than likley due for a refresh as its old and water does get in. If your hearing a clunk at slow speed going over a driveway on an angle etc its more than likely the shaft moving in the tube.

    Better to have a look asap as you dont want it chewing into the beam.
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    And best of all its not that hard to do, getting the old bearings out is the hardest part.

    If you are clever, invest a little time in this and make it an easy pleasureable thing to do, I did and I can tell you its a nice feeling!

    I need to improve my bearing extraction though! I suggest making a puller, get one of your old pins extracted from the trailing arm and use it to drive the inner to the correct position, the outer uses a block of wood intiailly and a large socket to recess. Plenty of grease into the bearing prior to insertion and on the pin when it goes in at the two bearing points.
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    Thanks you guys. Is it typically the labour time that incurs all the cost of getting it done? (not sure I want to try Matthew). I hear about quotes from $1-1500.
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    Get the parts and as long as there is no rust / seizures, no reason you could not do this in a matter of 6 hours yourself. Given its the first time allow 3 times this. Give it to me now and 4-6 hours later you can have the car back.

    You pay what the market demands.
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    Matt, I like to do plenty of jobs myself but 15 hours of grease and swearing doesn't sound very appealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isis View Post
    I hear about quotes from $1-1500.
    $500 + parts from me.
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    Thanks Peter, just not sure I can afford the airfare and accommodation.
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    I might speak to you about reconditioning my beam in the coming months Peter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT View Post
    $500 + parts from me.
    If anyone in VIC can roughly match Peter, the car is ready and waiting.
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    Pete,

    If that offer is available to me, I might take you up on it? I was speaking to one mechanic that said it's a good idea to change around 140-150klms. Mine is at 143klms, so we're almost there ... Obviously need to get the brakes working so I can drive the damned thing

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    It's only 8 hrs work and approx. $300 in parts at best. I guess it all comes down to your hourly rate. I'd be asking them to justify their existence at $1500!

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    If you're thinking of doing the beam as well as the brakes you may consider doing them at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acf321 View Post
    Pete,

    If that offer is available to me, I might take you up on it? I was speaking to one mechanic that said it's a good idea to change around 140-150klms. Mine is at 143klms, so we're almost there ... Obviously need to get the brakes working so I can drive the damned thing
    Or once each 20 ears. I will be 80 by the time comes around again all things being equal!
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    i was speaking to one reputable independent mechanic the other week about my new toy and over the phone i was quoted $1800+ to do the rear beam. I almost brought up my coffee! Admittedly that was just a casual discussion and not me booking the car in.

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    All depends on what considerations are taken into account.

    If it were me the list would look like

    New rear arm bearings
    New rear arm shafts
    Seals
    New rear bearings
    Discs
    Pads
    Are the calipers in good working order?
    Brake hoses (there 20 years old now)
    Does it need a repaint? Probably.

    That could get you a properly rebuilt beam.

    Or not.

    Or maybe it only needs a few things and would be cheaper. If its going to be a fastidiously looked after car 1000 up to 1800 is not that bad.
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