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    Default 405 gear knob replaacement required - ideas please

    Hi guys,

    What are the options for an Mi16 gear knob? My son's is falling apart. Are there any other Pug knobs that'll fit?

    Or does anyone have an decent 2nd hand one?

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    It's a series 1.5 with the later (BE3) box, and from memory has that steel cross-shaped profile shaft.

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    Don't you hate it when your knob falls apart?

    My Mi16 one did too. I replaced it with a nice wooden one, sculptured to the shape of the hand. When the same happened on the 406 manual, I got one from ebay, came from somewhere like Hungary and was about $18 landed. It lasted for many years. Genuineones were closer to $50.

    The knob itself is a ribbed fit. To remove, you have to hold the stick down while the top comes off after the application of great force.

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    As did my son's new knob. The Aussie heat killed it over summer. A woody sounds better.

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    A hand shaped woody! Ribbed shafts! What a thread.

    He's not too keen on wooden knobs. But we were wondering which other models may have had the same mounting system. There are quite a few aftermarket knobs which appear to be made for a shaft with a plastic sheath. Oo-er.

    Thanks guys.
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    If the issue is the woody look, covering it in leather should not be too difficult
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    True. I am wondering if the 206 style ones will fit, with a plastic sleeve added. They look like they would, and look 'factory'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FIVEDOOR View Post
    If the issue is the woody look, covering it in leather should not be too difficult
    I think the problem is too much "stick and knob" handling is going on here

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    imo all peugeot knobs since the eighties are design challenged.

    for my 505 i got a mk2 Golf leatherette knob, found a bolt that screws into it and welded it to gear stick, after shortening the stick, in a spot where the gaitor fits tightly onto the bolt's head and hides it.
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    Is the 405 the same fitting as 205 BE3?

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    Stu, there are plenty of aftermarket knobs on eBay which come with universal fittings to go on any shaft.
    I bought one that would be more at home on a rice burner but did it as one of our other drivers is a Honda fan (to stop him moaning). We used a handful of race tape wrapped around the shaft for half a race. Actually got quite comfy after a while when it molded to your hand shape.
    As they say.... the Internet is full of knobs.


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    Mine is a wooden knob off a kitchen cupboard, drilled to appropriate size, pushed on, has served well for about 3 years
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    Thanks guys...all good info. The knob comes off in your hand now so a new one is imminent.


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    Most do. Sounds messy.


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    Little left field and won't help if the knob is actually coming off but I found some sew on leather covers which could help mine which gets tacky on the leather sides in wet humid weather. They don't really seem to include models of car with round knobs per se but the Sonata 2010-2014 might work..... hey.. its $10!
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    Cheers. Unfortunately the knob is disintegrating inside.


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    Dig out the insides, clean out loose bits, fill with constructors glue, the capuccino coloured stuff that squeezes out of a caulking gun, $4.50 at Bunnings, and jam it onto the lever, then let it set overnight.

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    i find knob designs so difficult.

    I don't get why they dont have a grub screw that's perpendicular to the shaft, that way you can easily remove it without destroying everything.
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    The new original reproduction ones on ebay specifically say they have changed the compound to avoid the cracking. I bought one, good product. Just make sure you tell them its for a right hand drive the shift pattern is slightly offcentre to face the driver.
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    Gonz, that's what I did last time. Liquid nails. But it softens in the sun! The knob got loose when the car was parked all day, and then the glue re-hardens. But now the knob is knackered.

    Deltone, I think you're referring to 205 knobs, which are different. I'm not aware of 405 replacement knobs. But if they are available, do tell.


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    Oh right, i though 205 and 405 knobs where the same! What does the 405 knob look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lion5 View Post
    i find knob designs so difficult.

    I don't get why they dont have a grub screw that's perpendicular to the shaft, that way you can easily remove it without destroying everything.
    Because plastic compounds don't tap well and brass inserts are expensive and tend to be "pressed out" when (over) tightened.

    And the grub screw would always tend to work loose because of the constant action of moving the gear lever.

    EDIT: IMO the best way is to simply tap the knob (coarse thread) and thread the shaft.

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    The 205 knob is like a golf club head shape, but the 405 is a symmetrical knob like on just about all manuals, like a round knob with a taper going into the shaft.


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