205 gti engine out, top or bottom?
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    Default 205 gti engine out, top or bottom?

    Hi folks, just about to pull the motor out my S3 and I'm wondering which is easier, out the top or from underneath? Bear in mind that the subframe's coming out either way. Right now I'm favouring pulling the whole lot out from underneath.

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    Yep. Go with underneath. Lower it onto a trolley, lift the car, roll it out.

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    I went underneath too, you can remove the k frame and lower engine mount, take the weight of the lump, remove gearbox and upper engine mount and lift the car away
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    Current -
    65' 404 Sedan,
    88' 205 GTI/16V
    92' 505 Custom Turbo Wagon
    92' 205 SI
    88' 505 GTI Wagon - PARTING OUT PM ME


    Gone -
    04' 206 RC (GTI180)
    2 X 405 STI,
    405 MI16
    98' 406 Coupe
    406 2l
    91' 205 SI
    306 Style,
    3 X 306 GTI6

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    Yeah I thought as much, thanks guys

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    I use a modified motorbike lift to remove it from underneath.
    ....now watch a Peugeot turn into a corner!

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    Wow. People have hoists. Nice. Looks like the body has to lift a fair bit to clear it.

    If you don't have a hoist it is useful to take as much as possible off the top of the engine, then take the underframe out, then drop the engine/g'box on the sump and lift the car over it. That way you only have to lift the body a little bit. If you put it on high enough stands, you might be able to lay the engine flat on its back and drag it out from under the car without moving the shell. I dropped the engine on a creeper and wheeled it out.
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    There's no need to remove the subframe or disturb the steering. Jack the car up on two stands, so there's 600mm clearance under the air dam. Remove all the obvious bits, including gearbox bell crank. Put an M10 nut on it to retain all the washers and push it back under the car. That's it really. The exhaust manifold will now clear the subframe on the way down. I drop the engine/gearbox assembly onto a sheet of plywood and slide it out.

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    Subframe had to come out anyway, battery leaked all over it so I'm gonna repaint it. Wasn't too bad, I've never come across a car with more unnecessary plumbing but I got there in the end. Should have the sump for you in a day or so Peter.
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    I went the top route as I don't have a lot of room in front of the car to slide stuff easily and was able to lift it high enough on the crane to manoeuvrer around the guard. Pic's in my project slow thread. Hardest bit for me was the drivers side drive shaft had seized in its mount

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