Oil change interval

[666]

I want to know what's the best oil change interval for a 206 Gti180. I'm thinking of changing the oil and filter every 5000kms. Is this a good idea as I frequently (can't help myself) rev my 206 Gti180 pretty hard. If not then what's the best interval. Any suggestion would be appreciated =).

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[XTC]

Possibly do the first one @ 5,000 then if you are concerned 10,000 is fine ... most people agree 20,000 (as recomended by Pug) is on the long side, less then 10,000 is bit of overkill. Just use quality stuff and the same stuff each time ... Mobil 1 is pretty good value.

- XTC206 -

[gti138]

I change mine every 10,000 using the Total oil as used by the dealers. Last time i got some and the filter it was approx $110 I think...

It's worth changing it every 10k or if you really want to 5k but the synthetic oils used now days are pretty good and 10k should be fine.

[tekkie]

Possibly do the first one @ 5,000 then if you are concerned 10,000 is fine ... most people agree 20,000 (as recomended by Pug) is on the long side, less then 10,000 is bit of overkill. Just use quality stuff and the same stuff each time ... Mobil 1 is pretty good value.

- XTC206 -

agree.

but there is Mobil1 and there is Mobil1.
0W-40
10W-30
5W-50
and most common 15W50


Just use the correct viscosity for your pug. Its more important than the actual brand.

[slick]

it depends on the oil really. There's this Neo Racing shyntectic stuff (cant remeber the exact name) from USA that last a really long time but it's also on the expensive side

I'm thinking of getting that sort of stuff for my next service for the 306 S16

[gti138]

Just use the correct viscosity for your pug. Its more important than the actual brand.

The oil that Peugeot recomend is Total Quartz 9000 SL - it's a 5 W 40 Full Synthetic

[666]

Thanxs for all your replies. I think I'll stick to the 10K interval. I was told by my dealer to use Mobil1 for my pug. Hopes that's the right advise.

[PeterT]

Thanxs for all your replies. I think I'll stick to the 10K interval. I was told by my dealer to use Mobil1 for my pug. Hopes that's the right advise.

As Tekkie said, there's Mobil 1 and Mobil 1. My advice, since you're based in Sydney and planning to change the oil often, is go to the Green Goanna in Auburn and pick up 20L of Shell Ultra Helix. It's a full synthetic, in whatever grade, and costs $146 per drum.

[slick]

As Tekkie said, there's Mobil 1 and Mobil 1. My advice, since you're based in Sydney and planning to change the oil often, is go to the Green Goanna in Auburn and pick up 20L of Shell Ultra Helix. It's a full synthetic, in whatever grade, and costs $146 per drum.

how much is it for 5L ? if it's a substantial saving maybe I'll stock up or share it with same fellow froggers

[SLC206]

As Tekkie said, there's Mobil 1 and Mobil 1. My advice, since you're based in Sydney and planning to change the oil often, is go to the Green Goanna in Auburn and pick up 20L of Shell Ultra Helix. It's a full synthetic, in whatever grade, and costs $146 per drum.

The Green Goanna? Is this a car parts place or something else? Do they have other brands/types of oil there?

[PeterT]

The Green Goanna? Is this a car parts place or something else? Do they have other brands/types of oil there?

They just sell oil. There's no point in buying 5L, it will cost you $60-$70. The idea is to buy in bulk and save.

[N5GTi6]

The Green Goanna? Is this a car parts place or something else? Do they have other brands/types of oil there?

They're a distributing agent for Shell Oils. They used to operate out of a shop onsite at Shell, and so were VERY cheap, but were split off a few years ago. Their prices aren't as sharp as they used to be, but it's a great place to buy in bulk. I buy all the oil for my bike there. They're at 10 Wentworth St Granville 2142 (02) 9897 7551. There are certainly lots of oils there I've never heard of before! For a car you'd likely buy the Helix range from them.

Yes, just remembered.......some fool a few years ago went into a shop and said 'why would I buy this oil from you when I could buyt it from the Green Goanna for half that price.' Within a week, the shop had called Shell and threatened to stop stocking it's products - you guessed it - the Goanna were forced to raise their prices - nuts!

[tekkie]

They're a distributing agent for Shell Oils.

They also sell other brands, and sell industrial cleaning stuff, gear box, diff, brake fluids etc.

And when you go in ask the proprietor about his new race track toy. You might get a chance to leave in an hr or so.

[Nick I]

Hi,

Given that most new cars these days are throw away items and in this regard not much different to electronic goods - is it worthwhile changing engine oil more regularly than the manufacturer's recommended intervals.

Probably not - unless you regularly tow heavy loads, take many short trips or thrash the crap out of your machine - in the latter case you'll probably wear out many mechanicals before the due date irrespective of what oil you use or how often you change it.

If you drive many short trips it would be worthwhile changing the oil and filter every 5000 or three months which ever occurs first. If the engine works under extreme conditions do the same, or if you use a good oil like Shell Ultra Synthetic maybe 10,000 or every six months would be fine.

Why on earth would you ever want to use highly expensive oils when what is available on the shelf ie syn mixes or straight syn in Aus is more than adequate and more than often exceed manufactureres specs.

I quess if you are wanting to keep your car beyond its use by date around 120000 k or for more than 5 years, for example its your last "retirement car" then it might be worthwhile spending the extra on maintenance.

Given the rapid depreciation of these throw away items, maybe its worthwhile spending you bucks on something else - like a roof over your head.

Cheers ....... Nick

[Pug4eva]

I know this is one old post, but as my 180 approaches its first thousand km, I am considering (well already bought too) using Penrite synthetic 5, which turned out to be 5w60.

As Peugeot strictly recommends 5w40 and from a technical point of view, will this do any harm to the engine? Or has anyone put in a different oil and noticed anything in particular (fuel consumption, black deposits on exhaust etc)

Cheers

[SLC206]

I don't personally know of anyone that has put 5W60 in the 180, Pug4eva.

All I can say on the subject is why are you buying 5W60 oil for it when you know that Peugeot say (and quite specifically in the owner's manual I might add) to use synthetic 5W40 oil only in the GTi180.

Personally I think the 60 bit will be a little thick for the 180 head's variable valve timing gear, and you may wonder why the car doesn't rev as cleanly, but that's just my opinion

[tekkie]

I know this is one old post, but as my 180 approaches its first thousand km, I am considering (well already bought too) using Penrite synthetic 5, which turned out to be 5w60.

As Peugeot strictly recommends 5w40 and from a technical point of view, will this do any harm to the engine? Or has anyone put in a different oil and noticed anything in particular (fuel consumption, black deposits on exhaust etc)

Cheers

If the Peugeot says 5w40, get 5w40 (or anything else as long as you maintain _w40) If you plan on stressing an engine for long periods of time then possibly consider _W50. 20 points thicker oil is bad for lifters, oil pump, oil galleries etc (as bad as getting say 0w30 for different reasons).

[kermit]

They just sell oil. There's no point in buying 5L, it will cost you $60-$70. The idea is to buy in bulk and save.

True but I've never paid more the $47 for 5l of Helix Ultra and when Supercheap are having a sale, which appears to be every weekend, you can get it as low as $38.

[Pug4eva]

If the Peugeot says 5w40, get 5w40

Bought the Elf excellium 5w40 today (3 x 4L containers) got them at trade price (it's peanuts off retail anyways, about $1 off per litre)

Will be servicing it on monday morning, can't wait! (clocked 1200k's already)

[PeterT]

True but I've never paid more the $47 for 5l of Helix Ultra and when Supercheap are having a sale, which appears to be every weekend, you can get it as low as $38.

But is it 15W-50?
$38 for 5L is excellent buying if it's the same stuff. At $47, that's $188 per drum???

[SLC206]

But is it 15W-50?
$38 for 5L is excellent buying if it's the same stuff. At $47, that's $188 per drum???

Shell Helix Ultra is only available in 5W40 as far as I know.

Pug4eva, the Elf stuff seems to be pretty good. Lots of people here like it anyway. Some people even think that because it smells nice, it must be good for your engine

[PeterT]

Shell Helix Ultra is only available in 5W40 as far as I know.

I've got a 20L drum of 15W-50.

[Decca]

Agree with Tekkie.. If Peugeot says use 5w40...
Too higher number, 50 or 60, can cause problems due to the oil galleries which are too narrow to let the thicker oil through at a good rate.
also items like variable valve gear may not operate correctly due to the thicker viscosity, or, at the correct rate of change due to the oil movement being restricted.


Decca

[SLC206]

I've got a 20L drum of 15W-50.

Ok then, I believe you

Their web site does say that Shell Helix Ultra is a 5W40 and Shell Helix Plus is 15W50 - and that's all I've ever seen in the shops. The Green Goanna may sell different stuff though

[PeterT]

Agree with Tekkie.. If Peugeot says use 5w40...
Decca

I agree too. I just use what's right for my applications, ie XU9* and XU10* engines.