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    During your rust repairs, are you doing anything to the drain holes at the bottom of the front and back windscreens ?

    Because they have been a problem here in Australia.

    It has been a very common problem.

    Rust forms underneath and inside the panel. And you cannot just put windscreen sealant in there. That will hold in water and cause rust even more.
    All older 504s here used to eventually develop rust holes at the bottom corners of the front windscreen and this weakens the pillars. Not good.

    From my own experience, you can do 2 things :

    1) Weld in some metal pipes to drain the water further away from where it usually goes. I used pieces of transmission pipe I found at the wreckers....they are steel and flared at one end. They were big because they came from a big car.

    2) Renault 12s used to have no drain holes, but they did have a slot which the water could flow down, and then straight out the front......not inside. You could see it underneath the front windscreen rubber, but it was not very noticeable. Maybe you could create slots ?
    I always thought this was a beter solution to the problem.

    Either way, you really should squirt in some fish oil (or something similar) into the panel the water currently drains into.....there is always rust inside.

    The back windscreen is the same, but not so bad.

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    I just need to take out the windscreens, surely there is a rush... We'll fix it ... thank you

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    Good luck taking out the front windscreen without breaking it........it is very easy to break.
    I hope your friend has had experiencve doing this.

    The rear windscreen is no problem as it is "safety glass". You get in the back seat, take off your shoes and push out with your feet, whilst using a screwdriver on the rubber.

    Seriously....I've done it many times. And my local Peugeot mechanic taught me this. The rear screen is DIFFICULT to break !

    Unless you drop it on concrete ...
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    I did not know that; I already removed the windshield on that gold without damaging it I'll be careful!

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    Perhaps it is not a laminated front windscreen ?

    These things vary from country to country....

    .......Early 504s here in Australia (up until ....and including....1972) had safety glass windscreens. They are very tough, but shatter into small pieces if hit by a rock.

    ......Later models had laminated windscreens, which are 2 thin pieces of glass with sticky stuff between them. They crack fairly easily, but you can continue driving with a big crack in the glass, then replace it later.
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    I did not endure yesterday and I removed the windshield ... without any damage
    Of course, under the rubber... It was a rust ....
    look from above
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    look from the bottom
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    yesterday, it was not working ... the masters attacked the virus

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    It worked a little, not as much as we wanted, because viruses do their work
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    a little sagging, a little welding, changing the tile of the locks...I'm waiting for the next weekend ... starts to look like a car
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    That's major work you're doing there ! It's progressing along quite nicely, Dishaka.

    I notice that you have left on the top of the dash. You're not worried that it may get damaged ?
    Are you aware of how easy they are to remove ? Just pull UP...the dash is held on by clips.

    Sorry if you know this already....it just seems like it might get damaged.
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    I have a better state
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    Thank you Beano

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    I have not written for a long time, because nothing was done I hope for the works, maybe next week... To the master, the sister was seriously ill, and that's why work is delayed....
    It was a nice time so I played a little
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    and I'm preparing stickers
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    Greeting

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    Wow....I'm impressed at all the work you have put in, Dishaka. Great stuff !
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    Thank you Beano, but this is not some work, what should be .... I hope that soon there will be better and interesting works

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishaka View Post
    and I'm preparing stickers
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    Greeting
    Would you have a higher resolution please ?
    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    Going to print them, are you ?

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    Nop
    Mine are still doing fine.
    But I'd keep them for any probable future need.
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    Going to print them, are you ?

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    Chadi

    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    Someone had multiple sets of engine bay stickers reprinted and offered them on ebay a few years ago. I have a set

    Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk
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    1979 Peugeot 504 GTI 2.2 litre 5 speed - 72 kW at the wheels

    1974 Peugeot 504 TI
    - now on the road

    2009 Peugeot 407 HDI wagon - family car

    Previous: 2005 407 HDI manual sedan, 1980 504 GL, 1990 405 Mi16, 1977 504 GL Special, 1984 505 SRD Turbo



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    Amazing
    THANK YOU

    Here it is in case anyone wants it:



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    1982 504 SR white manual sedan with A/C (257 000 Km)
    2012 308 1.6 VTi Vapor Grey manual H/B (35000 Km)
    1994 405 1.6 white manual sedan (208 000 Km)
    1992 605 SV24 (91 000 Km)
    2005 406 2.0L automatic (Replaced with a 2013 C5)
    1983 505 GR white manual sedan with A/C (170000 Km)

    All since new


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    hi to all
    first for all just wow! amazing work!!
    I have Peugeot 504 GR 1983 what is the best sprak plugs ?
    where to you buy air filter ? and the make

    Thanks for the help in advance

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    works started again yesterday, entered the garage, adjust the door, a little welding ... tomorrow maybe the other side... I chose color, I'm sure 98%, It's not original, but I like it a lot.... color is Arancio Borealis ( https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/52...b3ece28515.jpg )
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    to be continued...

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    What are you doing about the drain holes at the bottom corners of the front windscreen, Dishaka ?

    I can see that you have filled that area with something pink-coloured. Did you weld plates underneath that ?

    Water needs to drain out the bottom. So there are a few options : you can put in tubes to take it out to somewhere better than where it currently goes, or make slots for it to drain out immediately. Renault 12s had slots, and they worked well. You could hardly see them.

    In one 504 I had, put in tubes because rust will always form where the water currently goes. But I think slots are better. I did that on another 504 and they were easy to create.

    You can't just seal up the windscreen completely. It may seem a good idea but I have been told that rust will always form there later.

    And whatever you do, you will always need to squirt in fish oil or or something like semi-liquid grease BEHIND that panel to stop the existing rust there from spreading.
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    Beano, thanks for advice
    Nothing about the drain holes has been done, I'm likely to put a plastic tube on ....
    Pink is an old color ... it does not matter ...
    In all cases, a protective wax will be ...
    And I covered the mass of parts with the Presto, https://www.motipdupli.com/en/INT/pr...7/tm-1187.html
    It's perfectly proven ...

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    I'm glad to help. I'm not an expert, but I have fixed a few 504s. And made a few mistakes

    I mentioned that pink area because that is where holes appear, due to rust....at the bottom outside corners of the windscreen.
    Often people put filler on top of the hole. But it is best to weld metal over the holes (and put filler on top of that) because the whole top of the car moves (very slightly) when you are driving it. And then the filler cracks.

    Good luck with fitting plastic drain tubes. The top of the tube has to be joined on to the metal (or the filler) somehow, but I'm sure you have an idea about how to do that best. And the bottom of the tube ? It needs to go further away from where the water used to go. It is like we are improving on the original design.

    That Presto looks like good stuff. But what about inside the panel, where you cannot see ? Underneath that pink area ? There will be rust in there. There is always rust inside. I have found that after doing all the rust repairs and painting, that if I drill small holes somewhere, I can squirt some fish oil (or spray grease) INSIDE that panel. That stops rust from continuing. And it lasts for many, many years. It's an old car restorer's trick.
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    Thank you Beana for advice!
    I thought something like this for a drain, glued with silicone
    ::: Proelektronik :::
    Protection is safely followed, and fish oil can hardly be found here ...
    Something like this, in fact, really this
    https://www.hbbody.com.gr/product/index.php?pid=38

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    Good thinking !

    And that wax looks good, but they say it needs to be applied with a special spray gun.

    I often just use white lithium grease in a spray can.

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