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    I have to put some tyres on 404 ute rims. I have some 195/65 15 radials off a 307, which I believe are the right size.

    I think that there may be an issue of the lack of bead on the steel rims which may present a problem. Has anyone successfully fitted conventional radials to 404 ute rims?

    The existing tyres are presenting serious failure issues and while the car undergoes restoration I think these will do. I don't want to put on new tyres such as light truck tyres.

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    Something to consider is having a spare set of rims/tyres. When I had my 404 Wagon i had a set of Ford F100 16 inch rims shod with 205/60/16 Bridgestone Tauranza tyres which were great and also filled the guards. Much better than the licorice offerings for the original rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geedee View Post
    Something to consider is having a spare set of rims/tyres. When I had my 404 Wagon i had a set of Ford F100 16 inch rims shod with 205/60/16 Bridgestone Tauranza tyres which were great and also filled the guards. Much better than the licorice offerings for the original rims.
    Good idea, but it's not my vehicle so I'll leave that to the owner.
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    Belatedly: i am not sure what you mean by the lack of a bead but I'm assuming that you mean the one or two safety ridges intended to resist a totally deflated (or very low pressure) tyre from having its beads migrating to the wheel rim well & allowing the rim to meet the road. If so, then there isn't really any legal or practical objection to fitting (tubeless or otherwise) tyres to such rims so long as the tyres are kept inflated correctly. The main thing to check would be that the rims are at least the minimum width for the tyre size (or else one has bead seating issues among other things).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugnut1 View Post
    I have to put some tyres on 404 ute rims. I have some 195/65 15 radials off a 307, which I believe are the right size.

    I think that there may be an issue of the lack of bead on the steel rims which may present a problem. Has anyone successfully fitted conventional radials to 404 ute rims?

    The existing tyres are presenting serious failure issues and while the car undergoes restoration I think these will do. I don't want to put on new tyres such as light truck tyres.
    195 65 15's would work in theory, depending on what use the ute/ wagon was being put to. Would also depends what diff ratio you're running. They could gear it down quite a bit compared to the high profile tyres originally run on those vehicles. I think a 75-80 profile tyres would be more like the original fitting.
    I used conventional 175.80.15 radials on 404 rims for my old blue wagon, but had issues with 'out of round & thin brakedrum' and a few inconsistencies in tyre to rim sealing. Afterwards I converted it to 4 stud 505 mags and high profile Bridgestones which it uses to this day.



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    For 195/65, minimum rim width is 5.5".

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    The ute had 205/65 15s on the rear and 175 SR 15s on the front. No idea why - it was used at times for rallying in days past and maybe this helped with handling. Anyway, the tyres look good on the rims.

    I had 205 14s on 505 rims once and had to have wheel spacers fitted otherwise the tyres rubbed on the struts. Handling was great though.
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