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    Hi All,
    We purchased a second hand PEUGEOT 308 T7 XSE HDi Touring 4dr Spts Auto 6sp 2.0DT about 18 months ago. Its a great car and we love it.... but a problem has developed. Around 8 months ago it started stalling first thing in the morning. As we take off you can feel that the accelerator is not as responsive as it normally is. Then as we make our way through the streets and slow to go over a speed hump or round-a-bout the rev's drop down and it stalls. This continues as we make our way through the local streets. Once we have pulled out to a major road or freeway the problem goes away.

    Unfortunately its unpredictable and we cant "make" it happen... which doesn't help when you go to get it fixed at a mechanic.

    When I first reported this problem at one of the service centers attached to a dealer they said there were no errors logged and they would do a service and see if that fixes it(??). It didn't so I took it back. This time they replaced the pressure pump (cost me $900) and said that would fix the problem. It seemed to for a little while but the problem returned after 6 weeks.

    At that stage I wondered if it was the fuel itself. I changed to only getting fuel at shell (previously getting cheap at 7-11), I wasn't sure if it was the same fuel but worth a shot. The problem went away for another 6 weeks and has now returned.

    As it currently stands the problem is occurring between 1-3 times a week. I am very concerned as other vehicles are not expecting my wife to suddenly stop as she drives the kids to school.

    I am not mechanically minded (gave that up after my first can... Renault 12 - Virage) and I am somewhat reluctant to take the car back to the dealer as we have had a few problems where they have said they will fix things, charged us enormous amounts of money and not actually fixed anything. We are yet to have a service that is under $1000.

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    Is there an alternative mechanic somewhere in Melbourne that others have had some success with in servicing Peugeot and solving problems where an answer isn't immediately obvious ?

    I have been to both service centers attached to dealers here in Melbourne and they have failed to impress, so would prefer not to go back, but happy to be advised appropriately.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.

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    Ben

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    That's the 2.0 motor? These are pretty reliable. When was the fuel filter last looked at, or water drained?

    I'm not in Melbourne, but the rule here is to avoid dealers and find specialist independents.
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    Hi. Thanks for that... Yes 2.0 diesel. I have no idea when those things were looked at, I assumed they would look at those things as part of solving the problem... although I get the impression the dealer would prefer to service perfectly working new vehicle rather than problem solve my out of warranty pug.

    I will contact one of the independents and see if he can help.

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    Spoke to virage motors and the first comment was "might be time for a new car"!!! He said thag reagan motors were the best to take it to but they are the ones thay cant diagnose the problem. He said he will take a look at it on Friday for me. Fingers crossed.

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    Thats wierd ive managed to post my followup as a different user.

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    I hope that was a joke and not a disguised anti-French weirdo comment, because the 2.0 L HDI engine is reliable, and is used in several makes of vehicle including Ford and Volvo.

    I still suspect the fuel system. From memory the older version of the 2.0 motor had a clear plastic section of fuel line near the fuel filter. Are there bubbles in this when cold, that go away later?

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    I hope so it was a throw away as well.... we love this little car but today it stalled as my wife pulled onto a busy road so if i cant resolve it we will need to replace it. I will check the fuel line near the filter and see if there are bubbles...assuming i can find the filter; -)

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    Just spoke to my wife today she drove out with the air con off and it seemed fine after a couple of kms she turned it back on and 5 min later clunk stalled. Going to test tomorrow and see if i can reproduce.

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    I wonder where all the other diesel tinkerers have gone.

    When the a/c compressor load kicks in the computer is supposed to increase the fuelling a little to compensate. It's done by altering the opening time of the injectors. This presumes that fuel flow is available.

    The filter in the RHR motor (the code is in your VIN) is at the front on the driver's side. Tubes go in and out of a plastic cap. The water drain and water sensor is under the fitting. The transparent tube is part of the outlet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 308boy View Post
    Spoke to virage motors and the first comment was "might be time for a new car"!!!
    That's a joke yeah?


    Change your fuel first. There are a number of reasons that I refuse to put shell into ANY of my cars - petrol or diesel.
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    Or book it in at my work and I'll have a look at it
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    Where do you work young4old? I cancelled the booking at virage and booked it into Spencer, they sounded much more keen to solve.

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    A search will locate that info - New luxury car owner, helped needed for Timing Belt service- 407 v6 Post #17.

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    Hi Ben,
    My car, also 308SW 2.0HDI and I am facing the same issues.
    Have you found the solution?
    Could you share it please?
    I suspect fuel filter but I am not sure and want to check what else can be wrong.
    Would appreciate your answer.
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    Hi
    My daughter has same vehicle and was experiencing similar issues. Was diagnosed by the mechanic I use. It was a small part with a micro mesh screen that was in the rear of the vehicle near the fuel tank. Clogs up over time and fuel starvation is the result. The part was about $140 from memory.
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    Thank you Mike. Will pass it on to my mechanic. Cheers

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    Hi, You say you had your pressure pump replaced for $900?
    Seems a bit cheap for a High Pressure pump so I wonder what they changed.
    The fuel flow regulator on the side of the UP pump can get sluggish. Side effects are rough idle, poor pickup and in worst cases, stalling.
    You'd need to take it to garage that can look at fuel parameters. The tech needs to look at 'measured pressure' versus 'reference pressure' They should be equal. There should not be a significant difference.
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