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    So I bit the bullet yesterday and purchased a new radiator for the S16. Got it home and out of the box and WTF. it was a BEHR, it is so flimsy it isn't funny, no protection for the fins at all. In addition the way it had been packed there was about 2 inches across the bottom where the fins were mangled. I took it back and got a refund.

    Doing a bit of googling and seeing pictures of the nissens ones they seem a lot better. I tried AAA radiators in Croyden park (thanks bigrr) but they unfortunately only have the 24mm version (mine is 32mm).

    I found a couple of places in the UK and I can get one shipped for about $40 more than the BEHR cost me locally, so if I can't get one locally I will go that route.

    Anyone replaced one recently and has a local source?

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    I had a Nissens one dropped in my GTi6 a month or three back, does the job it's supposed to just fine. The list price for these is apparently pretty high, but I got mate's rates as I know the mechanic. It was still roughly double what it would cost to import from the UK but I didn't have 2-3wks spare to wait for delivery!
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    OK Best price I have found so far (from uk) is about $385 including shipping (exchange rate must have got worse because it was about $350 yesterday.... Not really in a hurry so if local prices are nearly double that I think I will go the import.

    BTW does the 6 one have an aluminium ridge across the top or does it just have the fins bent over with no other form of protection?

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    Oh bugger me, exchange must have gone to crap indeed because when I looked (a few mths ago) they were $250~ shipped!! $385ish was the cost price that I ended up paying, but he reckons that for Joe Bloggs to walk in off the street and buy one the list price was nearly $700+.

    As for the ridge, not quite sure what you mean there but here's some assorted pics.
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    Thanks!! That is MUCH MUCH better than the BEHR one that I picked up yesterday!! Think of the cooling fins you see on an airconditioning unit. The tin foil thin ones that the slightest pressure will crush. That is what the bher one was like.

    Now imagine those thin fins all sticking up vertically and then bent over at the top to make a flat surface. That is what the top of the radiator was. No cap like what yours has got, That's what I meant by the ridge, the solid aluminum piece running along the top protecting the fins. The BEHR does not have one of those. The fins themselves form the top of the radiator.

    I wish I took a picture of it before I took it back!

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    Geez that sounds a touch flimsy.

    I don't have the original anymore but I remember it had taken a beating over the years, plenty of dinged fins and it was filled with crap. The fins didn't look nearly as solid as they do on this unit.
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    BEHR is an OEM supplier, although I think mainly to the European PSA market.

    Schlockauto used to do Nissens radiators and heater cores - could be worth a look.

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    Yes I knew BEHR was an OEM (and a german one at that) that is what surprised me the most. I thought it must have been an unfinished unit (but apparently not).

    I'm assuming schlockauto is a peudonym, but I'm not sure who..

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    That would more than likely be RockAuto

    And yes, they do seem to have a comprehensive collection of Nissens radiators
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    I've got the 40mm all alloy radiator in my S16 - do a search on eBay. Have had no issues and they are very well made, work flawlessly and are larger capacity than standard. $300 delivered from a couple of australian sellers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeStig View Post
    I've got the 40mm all alloy radiator in my S16 - do a search on eBay. Have had no issues and they are very well made, work flawlessly and are larger capacity than standard. $300 delivered from a couple of australian sellers...
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    i was very close to getting one for my 206 when my one broke, but wasnt sure how legit they were. In my case the plastic ABSy material hose broke so i was inclined on getting something that would actually last, as opposed to stuff up after another couple of years for the next poor bloke (prob me) decides to innocently flush coolant.

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    They are made in China ..... But they are 100% aluminium and I've had zero issues ... The welding is neat and the rad is certainly sturdy .... My 306 sits on 90deg all day - I replaced the fans at the same time and sourced a samco hose set .... I don't expect to replace the radiator again whilst car is owned by me ....

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    Although the replacements available are not exactly stock I'm trying to keep it as stock as possible... I had thought about the all aluminium ones before, one thing that worries me though is the two 10mm hoses that go to the bottom of the radiator tank. I don't know what they are for and bypassing them or blocking them off I'm not sure of the implications.

    But $300 delivered is pretty tempting. What did you do with the two 10mm pipes? Loop them, or block them off?

    edit: Oh and rockauto was actually where I found one for $385 delivered I thought maybe Addo was referring to them but wasn't sure if he was talking local or overseas.

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    I joined them together .... Have no idea what they are for.
    My plan was to add the connections but I researched at the time and couldn't get an answer and in the 3 years the rad has been fitted I've had no issues.... There's a nissens fitted to the other s16 ( now sold) and it was different to the stock in appearance .... The cooling fins were visible from the top as there's no plate or cover running across the top... No issues with it either.

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    hmmm so it sounds like the S16 version of the Nissens is like the BEHR... that's not encouraging.... were the fins paper thin? I think I need to ask for a photo before I purchase online!

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    Yep fins were dense in number but paper thin in construction !!

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    You could always just ring EAI in Sydney and get a Valeo, I have had a few Valeo radiators from them over the years and always found them to be of top quality. Last one I got was for a 405 and it was fine.

    Just a suggestion anyway!

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    I found my invoice and it was $320 I paid and this was back in March.

    As for versions, the part number I have says it's for an original run GTi6 up to about '97, but mine is a 2000 and everything still works *shrug* I do recall my mechanic saying that the Nissens was a smaller capacity than the original that was fitted (original in that it was an OEM Ordinez, don't know if it had ever been replaced) because it didn't take all the (still new) coolant that he got out of the old one. Mind you I recently topped up the coolant because it was sitting a bit low, so perhaps it just hadn't filled the system completely when he first installed it.

    When I get home I'll take one for the team and try to bend one of the fins on mine, but I'm fairly confident I won't be able to without the aid of a tool.

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    A year or so ago, I replaced my daughter's 2000XSi with a AAA (Nissens) radiator (24mm?)( Plastic tank sprung a leak in original).
    No problems at all, yet.

    At the same time Trivett had a genuine brand new OEM (copper and plastic) $1000 .

    Tony, how long will you be keeping your S16, another 15 or so years?

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    EAI only have the BEHR unfortunately... From the sounds of LeStig's experience the newer nissens are of the same construction as the BEHR so I'm not keen on that either.

    I have however tracked down a valeo, and can get it for around $285 delivered. The other option (which is even cheaper, but from the picture looks good quality wise) is a FRIGAIR Radiator, engine cooling CitroŽn, Peugeot by Frigair 0108.2057 - rexbo.eu

    Valeo is probably the best bet for keeping it original, though I'm not sure if what is in mine is actually a valeo, Will check tonight. Ah just re-read Trinity's post and mine is an ORDINEZ... I couldn't remember what was stamped in the top but that is it.

    I got the lower hose from Rexbo, shipping they are quoting $48 euros for a radiator!! If anyone is looking for pug parts I'd recommend giving them a shot.

    Have to call a radiator place locally (can get something, though I'm not sure what yet) for $370.... father in law did some checking for me. I may go that route if I can get one by this weekend (and it is of suitable quality) otherwise will wait for an OS delivery.

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    Well fins bend with a bit of force, but still quite sturdy. At any rate it's all well protected with the plate along the top and bottom.
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    FWIW Behr aren't usually rubbish; they do OEM stuff for a few including BMW. I wonder if they're cutting costs/resources/weight?


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    All three I suspect Stuey!! The thing was light as a feather! When I picked up the box I was rather surprised.

    Trinity, I was going of Lestig's comments, It sounded like the nissen that he had in his S16 had the flimsy fins like the BEHR, and no top cap. It's possible they it is a difference between the S16 and GTi6 models, but it is also possible that they have changed the design, and the one you got was a good one. Your photo's are very different from the BEHR that I got. Honestly the fins were not much thicker than aluminium foil, I kid you not!

    When I talked to the guy from AAA radiators, he told me that I would most likely be dissapointed with the Nissen as well, he had one but it was only the 24mm core version.

    Really wish I'd taken a picture!

    bigrr, The valeos are no longer being made, anything available is runout stock.... so they may be the real deal I haven't been able to find a picture of one though so the Frigair is looking attractive. edit: was... frigair site says it is 26mm and I think aluminium... rexbo site says 34mm and copper.... sigh.

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    I know this thread is a bit old, but I thought I would add some further info regarding the BEHR radiators.

    I forgot everything I read in this thread last year, and ordered a radiator from EAI this week. I was pretty unimpressed with the design of this thing, and the condition it arrived in. The fins were all bent to hell due to the packing tape wrapped around the inner box. The box outside looked fine, no visible damage.
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    Will be trying on Monday to get a refund and source a different model from somewhere. Gotta wait until mid April for my samco hoses anyway so not in a massive rush fortunately.

    I'm thinking a valeo radiator from rockauto might be the goer, see if I can sneak it into my brother's next shipment and save some freight costs
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