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    Default Peugeot 306 XT 4 Cyl N5 1997 - Randomly won't start.

    Hi all, I'm a brand new Peugeot owner, honoured to be included in this forum! I hope someone can help me with my problem.

    I have a Peugeot 306 XT 4 Cyl N5 (1997) (Auto) with 162 000 km's on the clock that runs wonderfully!

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    Unfortunately, it randomly decides not to start. Usually this is after i stop the car, go into the shops/get petrol and come back to the car (10-30mins) to start it. It kicks over, but then it starts with little to no power, it feels like its running on only 2/3 cylinders, it struggles/shakes, I can't rev it, and then it stalls.

    After about 30 mins to an hour wait, it'll start fine again, like nothing happened at all (quite embarrassing in front of the NRMA).

    I got the ignition leads and spark plugs all changed, and unfortunately the problem is still happening!

    Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

    Let me know if you need any more details.

    Leo

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    Hi, I'd start by checking the condition of your battery leads, then the fuel filter.

    Most likely to me, though, seems an ignition fault - either a driver module or the coil itself.

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    Thanks for the help addo!

    The end problem its seems, turned out to be a faulty fuel pump.

    Got it replaced, hasn't had the problem since.

    Driving like a beaut, now have to turn my attention to a water leak filling up the drivers side foot well!

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    Sounds like your heater may have crapped itself!
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    Addo is a shrewd bugger!

    An excellent diagnosis from afar

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    I was completely wrong!

    My suspicion was sparks, it turned out to be fuel.

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    heater matrix is the water leaking problem. Get it changed as soon as you can or you will become a member of the no coolant cook book club!

    Oh and welcome!
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    Are you talking about a coolant leak or fresh water from all the rain lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moyboy38 View Post
    ....now have to turn my attention to a water leak filling up the drivers side foot well!
    It has been raining rather a lot in sydney this last month.
    Is the liquid in your cabin rain water, or coolant???

    maybe I should have ask first....Is the liquid in your cooling system coolant or water??

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    I was completely wrong!

    My suspicion was sparks, it turned out to be fuel.
    Combining sparks and fuel, what could possibly go wrong?

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    Hey Guys,

    Yes, It had been raining an awful lot in Sydney!

    The water is pooling up in both the Drivers footwell and passengers! Both are completely soaked!

    YES, the water that is in the footwells is FRESH WATER, delish rain water to more precise.

    So, I took it to my mechanic, and asked him to check the Air Conditioning vents and pipes, and also double check the window and door seal (I checked them meself but never hurts to have a second opinion)

    He did a thorough check and said all the Air Conidition pipes/vents were NOT BLOCKED, and the door/window seals were fine.

    Had a go with a hose myself this arvo, but can't find anything. Should I go to a smash repairs?

    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

    Leo

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    At least there is some positive aspect..It is not coolant.

    I've seen door seals lose their 'skin' and become porous.
    This turns the seal into a wick which allows water to travel down the seal by capillary action.
    My solution was to scotch guard the seals.

    I was worried that the scotch guard would degrade the rubber, but it has not appeared to do that at all.

    Worth checking your seals with a paper towel.



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    Has the car got a sunroof by chance?

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    AHHH Scotch guard Jo! Good idea, The seals are a bit worn, as in, you seem to be able to "milk them" when they are wet. I'll give it a go with the scotch guard.

    Cav91, No, unfortunately I don't have a sunroof.

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    Default Peugeot 306 XT 4 Cyl N5 1997 - Randomly won't start.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moyboy38 View Post
    Hey Guys,

    Yes, It had been raining an awful lot in Sydney!

    The water is pooling up in both the Drivers footwell and passengers! Both are completely soaked!

    YES, the water that is in the footwells is FRESH WATER, delish rain water to more precise.

    So, I took it to my mechanic, and asked him to check the Air Conditioning vents and pipes, and also double check the window and door seal (I checked them meself but never hurts to have a second opinion)

    He did a thorough check and said all the Air Conidition pipes/vents were NOT BLOCKED, and the door/window seals were fine.

    Had a go with a hose myself this arvo, but can't find anything. Should I go to a smash repairs?

    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

    Leo
    I've just bought a similar car in Melbourne.

    I bought a 306 new in 1994, and it had a problem with water coming in in heavy/persistent rain. It had a sunroof too. I don't think it got sorted before I sold it a year or so later.
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    My 306 pax side always leaked in the rain. It was the door seals. They used to do a great job of blocking the drain holes in the bottom of the door when closed and directing water into the car and not out of it.

    If it's had aftermarket speakers fitted at some stage it's highly likely that the rain sheet behind the door cards has been disturbed, which would also cause the issue.

    Another potential problem on older 306s in the rain is the aerial mount seal going hard and letting water in through the interior lamp. Watch for drips from above too
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    ^ Best way to check for this is to pop out the large interior light, just takes a butter knife and a small application of elbow grease. With that out there's two screws to remove that hold the lighting assembly in place. From there you'll have a metal cap/dome thing hanging off the roof, and the aerial bolt is underneath it. Pull off the cap with your fingers and look for any signs of rust inside it and on the bolt. If both are clean you're ok.
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    G'day guys,

    Just a quick update, I've popped open the roof light underneath the antenna and there is no sign of water or rust.
    I Scotch guarded the door seals thoroughly.

    It hasn't rained heavily in Sydney for a while, but it certainly isn't flooding any more. It makes me think it was somthign filling up and overflowing, as it only flooded in heavy rain.

    Anyway thanks for the help guys, will update if anything progresses.
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