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    Hi

    Just wondering if anyone could help me out with my 2005 206 1.6ltr sloppy/crunching gear shift.
    Can anyone tell me which are the items commonly responseable for this poor gear selection problem.
    There seem to be plenty of selector rods available on eBay. But are these the part I need?

    Also where would be the best place to source a timing belt/idler and water pump kit for this vehicle.
    And one last question. Is a gasket between the water pump and the block normally supplied. Or is it fitted using a hylomar paste?

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    Crunching gear shifts could also indicate worn synchs in the gearbox. Second normally the first to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lplate View Post
    Hi

    Just wondering if anyone could help me out with my 2005 206 1.6ltr sloppy/crunching gear shift.
    Can anyone tell me which are the items commonly responseable for this poor gear selection problem.
    There seem to be plenty of selector rods available on eBay. But are these the part I need?

    Also where would be the best place to source a timing belt/idler and water pump kit for this vehicle.
    And one last question. Is a gasket between the water pump and the block normally supplied. Or is it fitted using a hylomar paste?

    Cheers John
    Being a 2005 model I think the linkages are more likely to be cables going directly to the gearstick, but without your vin number I can't be 100 percent sure. If they are cables it sounds like they've stretched a little over time. Or at worst the clutch could be on it's last legs.

    The water pump does come with an o ring type seal. Best place to get the kit would be either caravelle imports or European auto imports. When you ring up make sure you have your vin number (or at least the last 8 numbers of it) as there is a few types.

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    Hi John,

    On a 1.6 206, the most common things responsible for a crunchy gearshift are the synchros or something else within the gearbox - ie. the gearbox would be the main suspect.

    The MA5 gearbox is not known for its robustness.

    I'm pretty sure it will have linkage rods and not cables, but the VIN check is the best way to determine this without looking at the car.

    EAI, Caravelle or even DAPCO should have the bits you need for the timing and water pump.
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    Hi guys thanks for your responses. I should have mentioned that the crunching is with the vehicle stationary and not running. Could it still point to the synchro.

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    Photo didn't come through 44741745 is the last 8 digits of the vin

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    You've dodged a bullet there your car has linkages no cables.

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    As above, I'd suggest clutch as number one possibility.

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    Does your's have a hydraulic clutch?
    If so i wonder if the clutch cylinder is leaking or needs bleeding ?
    In sufficient separation/engagement of clutch when you press the clutch in.

    Check clutch free-play at the pedal?

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    While I know nothing about 206 gearboxes, I'd check the simple stuff first. So, if it has linkages check them over carefully before you do anything else.

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    Yes it is fitted with a hydraulic clutch. There are no leaks that I can see. And the clutch takes up nicely.

    I think after having a look around today. I feel that there is some wearing to the linkage ball and socket joints?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lplate View Post
    Hi guys thanks for your responses. I should have mentioned that the crunching is with the vehicle stationary and not running. Could it still point to the synchro.
    Every gearbox will crunch when not running if the gears are not aligned. Worst case is when clutch not depressed and engine not running. Now you are trying to force alignment between the stopped engine and the stationary wheels. Something has to give ....crunch ...as the engine is forced to rotate into line.
    Synchros provide the alignment when the gears are running

    Best avoid doing this

    Read up on a "Dog Clutch"

    What Is a Dog Clutch?

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    The take up point should be closer to you rather than the floor.
    If the point is close to the floor you are pushing..............up hill.

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