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    Default 307 Touring HDi Economy Record Attempt

    Peugeot and their super economical driver John Taylor are back at it again. Previously they managed to achieve 2348km in a 406 HDi sedan and still have fuel left in the tank, now they're going for the Round Australia Diesel Economy World Record and the overall Round Australia World Fuel Economy Record in a 307 Touring HDi.


    Peugeot 307 to Attempt Two 'Round Australia Fuel Economy' World Records.

    Interesting choice, I personally would've thought the 307 HDi hatch would be better (lower weight) for an economy run, although I would prefer the HDi135 or at least HDi110, given the intercooler does help with economy (we're hardly in a cool season which would aid economy). Having said that, the Touring would have plenty of room for travelling around Australia.

    All the best to them. The car has left Melbourne.


    Below is the schedule.

    307 Touring World Record Schedule
    Day Date FROM OVERNIGHT

    Start MELBOURNE
    27-Feb Motor Show Press Day
    1 28-Feb SYDNEY
    2 29-Feb SYDNEY
    3 1-Mar SYDNEY KEMPSEY
    4 2-Mar KEMPSEY BRISBANE
    5 3-Mar BRISBANE
    6 4-Mar BRISBANE ROCKHAMPTON
    7 5-Mar ROCKHAMPTON TOWNSVILLE
    8 6-Mar TOWNSVILLE MOUNT ISA
    9 7-Mar MOUNT ISA DALY WATERS
    10 8-Mar DALY WATERS DARWIN
    11 9-Mar DARWIN
    12 10-Mar DARWIN KUNUNURRA
    13 11-Mar KUNUNURRA BROOME
    14 12-Mar BROOME KARRATHA
    15 13-Mar KARRATHA GERALDTON
    16 14-Mar GERALDTON PERTH
    17 15-Mar PERTH
    18 16-Mar PERTH JERRAMUNGUP
    19 17-Mar JERRAMUNGUP COCKLEBIDDY
    20 18-Mar COCKLEBIDDY CEDUNA
    21 19-Mar CEDUNA ADELAIDE
    22 20-Mar ADELAIDE
    23 21-Mar ADELAIDE WARRNAMBOOL
    24 22-Mar WARRNAMBOOL MELBOURNE
    25 23-Mar MELBOURNE MEDIA DAY - FINISH ALBURY
    24-Mar SYDNEY PRESS DAY SYDNEY


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    [ Interesting choice, I personally would've thought the 307 HDi hatch would be better (lower weight) for an economy run, although I would prefer the HDi135 or at least HDi110, given the intercooler does help with economy (we're hardly in a cool season which would aid economy). Having said that, the Touring would have plenty of room for travelling around Australia. ]

    I think they will notice the lack of intercooler. My hdi touring does seem to suffer in economy and performance with temperature;even between 30 degrees and 20 degrees . However I would still choose the diesel over the petrol if it was a constant 45 degrees outside! Overall the economy and performance is still very good when it is hot (we recently had some 38-42 degree days here); but I do wish that they sold the intercooled version in Oz. At least the cabin space is very nicely intercooled!

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    I want to know what his driving technique is .. obviously he doesn't floor it, but is it coasting at every opportunity, engine breaking and even (god forbid) turning off the engine and rolling ? DANGEROUS

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    I think they will notice the lack of intercooler. My hdi touring does seem to suffer in economy and performance with temperature;even between 30 degrees and 20 degrees . However I would still choose the diesel over the petrol if it was a constant 45 degrees outside! Overall the economy and performance is still very good when it is hot (we recently had some 38-42 degree days here); but I do wish that they sold the intercooled version in Oz. At least the cabin space is very nicely intercooled![/QUOTE]


    Yes, the 406 HDI that Peugeot loaned us for the Redex Rerun got
    better economy than the 307 we used for the South Australia survey trip.

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    I imagine these fuel economy events wouldn't the most exciting thing to watch or participate in. good luck anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC206
    I want to know what his driving technique is .. obviously he doesn't floor it, but is it coasting at every opportunity, engine breaking and even (god forbid) turning off the engine and rolling ? DANGEROUS

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    I remember reading an article in Sydney Morning Herald around the time the Honda Insight came out here. They got a guy (could be the same guy as above) to drive it from Brisbane to Melbourne on a tank of fuel. He wasn't allowed to coast down hill in neutral.

    He did some funny things, though. Like, when he got to his hotel at the end of each day, he'd stop the car, turn the engine off, then push it into the driveway. Next morning, he'd push it back out onto the road, start it, and drive off. He deemed this acceptable because the hotel driveway wasn't part of the route. He must have save about 10ml of petrol like that.

    He also kept the windows open just a crack, to lower drag. It was so hot (no aircon, obviously) that he was driving in his underpants, apparantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LookingforMi16

    He also kept the windows open just a crack, to lower drag. It was so hot (no aircon, obviously) that he was driving in his underpants, apparantly.
    Charming, i would have loved to be in the car on that trip!


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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC206
    I want to know what his driving technique is .. obviously he doesn't floor it, but is it coasting at every opportunity, engine breaking and even (god forbid) turning off the engine and rolling ? DANGEROUS
    You'd use more fuel that way.

    Holding a car in gear with a closed throttle will shut off fuel in a modern injected car, watch your trip computer when you do this down a hill.

    The fuel required to start the engine again (assuming you do so conventionally with the starter motor) would mean you'd use more fuel.

    Average speed on the last run from Melbourne to the Sunshine Coast was 67km/h. That sounds slower than it really is, I'm guessing his actual cruising speed is somewhere around 80-90km/h. As soon as you slow down, your average speed really crashes if you've been at brisk highway cruising speeds.

    Somehow I suspect he might slipstream here and there.

    Quote Originally Posted by LookingforMi16
    He did some funny things, though. Like, when he got to his hotel at the end of each day, he'd stop the car, turn the engine off, then push it into the driveway. Next morning, he'd push it back out onto the road, start it, and drive off. He deemed this acceptable because the hotel driveway wasn't part of the route. He must have save about 10ml of petrol like that.
    When Qantas took delivery of one its 747-400s, they wanted to do London-Sydney non stop. They filled the aircraft's tanks with high density fuel and had it towed to the runway before they started it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC206
    <SNIP>even (god forbid) turning off the engine and rolling ? DANGEROUS

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    They did it!

    The 307 Touring HDi holds the:

    Round Australia Diesel Economy World Record
    Round Australia World Fuel Economy Record.

    81.16 mpg
    3.49l/100km
    28.58km/l

    $540.53 to drive 14,634km.
    That's less than 3.7c a kilometre!

    And they did it all with the non-intercooled HDi 90.

    http://www.autoweb.com.au/cms/A_101083/newsarticle.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug307
    They did it!

    The 307 Touring HDi holds the:

    Round Australia Diesel Economy World Record
    Round Australia World Fuel Economy Record.

    81.16 mpg
    3.49l/100km
    28.58km/l

    $540.53 to drive 14,634km.
    That's less than 3.7c a kilometre!

    And they did it all with the non-intercooled HDi 90.

    http://www.autoweb.com.au/cms/A_101083/newsarticle.html
    While it's hard to compare, the previous record in a 406 achieved roughly 2.98l/100km or 95 mpg. Guess that shows the value of the intercooler at these limits.

    81 mpg is pretty amazing stuff nevertheless.

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    I wonder what he'd have achieved in a smart cdi. They're rated at 3.1 L/100 km out of the box, in standard test cycles. They ARE intercooled

    I'm thinking of getting one of these smart cdi cars in a cabriolet actually. In the fall of 2004 they'll be sold in Canada (Diesel only).

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    Best I've averaged on a highway run in the same car is about 5.1l/100km. Great figure (I'm not complaining) but how he gets 3.48l/100km is beyond me. I wonder how long the engine he is driving has been run in for?

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    So how many HDI tourings actually made australia ?

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    I want one of those intercooled motors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I reckon put one in a lightweight clubman style car, weighing around 700-800 kgs, and see how economical it could be.
    Also, I think it would have more than a passing chance of leaving a WRX at the lights.
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