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    Hi, I'm new to the forum, I'll be the first to admit I am completely out of my depth in knowledge, but I am trying to learn !
    I came across the forum via googling when my 407 2004 model should have the timing belt replaced. Different mechanics have quoted me different thins. Advice appreciated

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    Hi Laura,

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    Peugeot Australia have the info on their website - though over the years they've made it harder to find.

    If you look at this pdf: Service Intervals it has the info you need.

    You haven't specified if your V6 is a petrol or diesel (HDi) but the interval is the same for both - 9 years or 180,000km.

    If yours has never been changed, then it should have been done in 2013, based on the time, according to Peugeot Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206 View Post
    Hi Laura,

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    Peugeot Australia have the info on their website - though over the years they've made it harder to find.

    If you look at this pdf: Service Intervals it has the info you need.

    You haven't specified if your V6 is a petrol or diesel (HDi) but the interval is the same for both - 9 years or 180,000km.

    If yours has never been changed, then it should have been done in 2013, based on the time, according to Peugeot Australia.
    Thanks for the link, it is petrol and 3.0
    i think I'll have to take it to another mechanic for a third opinion on the other problems.
    cheers !

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    I'm guessing this is the Mexican Cheltenham. Can a Melbournite give Lpvinyl the name of a mechanic with a decent Peugeot reputation near there, who knows where to get the parts at a sensible price? This isn't a cheap job to have done.

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    Is the car still under warranty if so get the dealer to fix. If you have no service history then the belt should be replaced as insurance for peace of mind. And major oil leaks need to be fixed before they become serious. There is also a list of reputable workshops if you search Peugeot forum good luck

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    Well there's a sticky of Melbourne mechanics at the top of the Peugeot forum that Laura can check out. Not sure if they're Mexican 'tho seasink!

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    The Peugeot petrol V6 engines like to leak oil from the rear bank of cylinders. It's just the lousy sealant that Peugeot used at the factory. Once it is replaced with something better it shouldn't leak again. It is not a huge job for a Peugeot mechanic who knows what they are doing. The head doesn't even have to come off 18-21 hours? Run from that mechanic Laura, run.

    The timing belt. Hmm, you are looking about $1000 for that, which should include the belt, the tensioner, the water pump, cam seals etc. All are easily accessed and replaced when the belt is changed. You may find the power steering fluid is leaking from a hose rather than something more major. The mechanic doing the timing belt should be able to advise you.

    Don't go to a regular mechanic, go to a Peugeot independent specialist. Drop it off and get the train/tram to work that day. It is worth seeking them out.

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    Indeed, my choice in Melbourne would be Kenny ("young 4 old pugs") - one of very few people I could leave a car with in complete confidence for both quality of work and fairness in price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206 View Post

    .......If you look at this pdf: Service Intervals it has the info you need.........


    Off topic.


    It is interesting that for the 407 2L HDi (DW10BTED4) engine the timing belt replacement period is 180,000kms or 9 years; and yet for same engine in the C5, the Citroen interval is 100,000kms or 4 years.

    Just had the timing belt in my C5 (with above HDi) replaced (at 102,000kms/4years) and it still looks like new. Mind you, the water pump was weeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by con View Post
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    It is interesting that for the 407 2L HDi (DW10BTED4) engine the timing belt replacement period is 180,000kms or 9 years; and yet for same engine in the C5, the Citroen interval is 100,000kms or 4 years.

    Just had the timing belt in my C5 (with above HDi) replaced (at 102,000 kms/4 years) and it still looks like new. Mind you, the water pump was weeping.

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    Also interesting to note the 406 V6 service intervals are 120,000 km or 6 years. I'm not sure the uprated model produced a better outcome after all.
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    Edited.
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    I think these sorts of prices are one reason why the cars are comparatively "cheap" to buy - I tell people purchase is just the entry fee. Be assured it's no different with BMW of the same age - many owners get nasty surprises or costs they can't quite yet afford.

    You may do OK with a wrecker for the shock absorbers, assume though that they will either not do a wheel alignment or it will be a quick and nasty one. I'm not sure if Australian 407s ever came with the electronically variable suspension but if so, this could be one more reason for the expensive parts. Peugeot/Citroen are harsh on tyres due to very soft rubber components in the front suspension and misalignment will quickly eat $300-400 in front tyres. This is not secondhand information, I deliberately pushed my own luck with this matter and have the tyre wear pictures to show.

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    That timing belt price looks a bit dear to me. As for the front shockers, they are enclosed in this assembly, similar to the C5:
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    Even though I bought the parts myself, timing belt replacement still cost in the region of $1700.00. 407 could be a little more difficult. If you go for the cheap price, buy the parts yourself - at least you'll know their quality.
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    Definitely buy the parts yourself! I would also have few spare coil packs on standby too. They will low coil packs if the plugs are not gapped correctly. I'd hate to think of how many my fathers 407 sv v6 sport as been through. Not sure if anyone else has had similar problems like that ? Avoid the Peugeot dealership though Laura IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    Indeed, my choice in Melbourne would be Kenny ("young 4 old pugs") - one of very few people I could leave a car with in complete confidence for both quality of work and fairness in price.
    I would second that. I make the trip down from Bendigo to Box Hill to get my car serviced at Auto Paris. They are excellent and know their stuff. They also have courtesy cars which is great for me.

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    I'd check the price of replacement out with Spencer St Automobiles in the city. Excellent mechanic & straightforward, honest, dealer IMHO. But whatever you do, get it changed! Spent $2500 on repairs when one gave way at a mere 40,000k on a "dealer serviced" 406 a year or so back!
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    Another vote for AutoParis and Kenny. Just got the timing belt done on my fiancée's 206CC as it was well overdue and wanted all the fluids (oil, coolant, brake, trans) changed out too. Kenny said he would go through the car and check everything else while he was at it. So he picked up torn engine mounts, wishbones with worn bushes and a few other things I wouldn't have noticed as I barely drive the 206. Yes it cost a bit extra but the price was very reasonable for the work done. I go to AutoParis for their expertise with Peugeots (instead of to Repco where my fiancée's dad had been taking the 206 until now ).
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    Laura,
    Ive used the SKF Timing Kit from Caravelle in box Hill,its much superior quality to whatever else is around aftermarket.
    Not sure where in southeast you are,heard Fernando Kalum runs Ted Geermans old shop in Cheltenham on Reserve road.
    This V6 is a very good engine compared to the nightmares in other makes.Usual power steering seep points are easy to fix,a new Oring on hi pressure pipe and replace the ;fixed/crimped' clamps on both pipes at Reservoir plus the two on filter/damper near rack.
    Im on western side if need be anytime.

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    Had My 308 HDI 2L DW10BTED Timing Belt Replaced at Europarts Recently, on Mileage(last January). I've been using Europarts for Quite a sometime. Not only they know what they're doing, very modest pricing. Upfront about things. Ex Dealer Technician working for them now, Knowledge second to non Especially about late Models.

    I think It is good to get a Major service like Timing Belt Replacement done by someone experienced enough, as a simple mistake can cause severe engine damage. Even a worn drive belt can get wrapped around the harmonic balancer and cause severe damage. That's what happened to my Previous 307.Prevention is better than cure.With V6 Engines someone needs to be even more careful as the job is a bit tricky and complicated than a 4 cylinder one. Exceeding timing belt change limit for too long can be a costly experience, as timing belts can give way after the service limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexMurphy
    I got My 308 HDI 2L DW10BTED Timing Belt Replaced at Europarts Very Recently. Water Pump,Tensioner and Idler Pulley was replaced at the same time. I've been using Europarts for Quite sometime. Not only they know what they're doing, very modest pricing. Highly recommended. Ex Dealer Technician working for them now, Knowledge second to non Especially about late Models.
    Hello Alex,

    It has to be said, the post from "Pujoman" reads rather like your copy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    Hello Alex,

    It has to be said, the post from "Pujoman" reads rather like your copy.
    Now another post in the same thread another "eagle peg", they must be a good company.

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    Hi Guys

    New here. Yep I just bought (2 weeks ago) a 407 sports wagon petrol v6 3.0l built 2005 with 108,000 km on it. Took it to sims in Brunswick. He did mention to me that the timing belt needs to be changed shortly and checking some posts it appears 120,000 km. Wish some of the above posts hadn't been edited or deleted as would love to know how much this will cost so I can prepare myself.

    And yes I was surprised how cheap this car was to buy. I was actually looking at a Subaru Liberty 2007 with the same Kilometers and the price for the Subaru was almost twice as much - Peugeot 9.5k vs 16.5 for the Subi. Like a poster mentioned above I figured they are so cheap because the services/part are much more expensive. But with 7.5k up my sleave here is hoping im ahead after 4 years of driving this car. Love the Euro Luxury of 407 - im still shocked at the quality I could buy for under 10k!
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