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    Default 205 mi16. Whats one worth??

    Hey guys just wondering how much a 205 mi16 would be worth if it had 160bhp.
    S1=?
    S2=?
    S3=?

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    S1 = about $9-10k....... if you can find one. There are only a handful in OZ.

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    Yeah,

    it's gotta be worth at least a couple of thousand as a parts car for a BX16valve

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    What ever someone is prepared to pay I guess is the right answer. May be a difficult thing to sell unless it had receipts as a professional conversion. There was an S1 for sale in QLD last year and seemed to be for sale for a while at $13500, don't know if it sold or what it sold for.

    But of course my S3 is worth at least $40k .....
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    That would have been my first 205 16v and it was a series 2
    Yep, took a while to sell [until the word got around ] and then got FLOODED with enquiries and went for every bit of the $13500 too.
    After it sold one guy even offered me $15000 to renege so yes there would be no set value only what someone is prepared to pay as mentioned.

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    Default 205-Mi16 Pricing

    Interesting thread.

    I am very seriously considering selling my 205-Mi16 shortly as although I love mine and have spent a fortune on it, I'm about to buy another car (a secret for now )

    If you have to build one up yourself and you are mechanically capable and prepared to take a shot at using a cheapie 205 as a base you can certainly get away for less but if you start to add up some of the key components like those below (rough pricing), you can very, very easily get over 25k. In truth, I think many of us have spent a lot more, so in my opinion expecting to buy a good 205 mi16 for under 15k is unrealistic.

    solid 205 base $10,000
    Mi16 motor $4,500
    conversion parts + labour $2,000
    engine enhancements $2,000
    suspension enhancements $2,000
    high performance clutch $500
    LSD $1,200
    wheels/tyres $1,500
    programmable ECU + tune $2,000

    The reality is that all of us who have 205-mi16's know that to build a really good, reliable and fast 205-mi16 costs a lot of money. We also know that a lot of our sunk cost will never be recovered but at the same time a buyer of a 205-Mi16 needs to have an appreciation for the real cost of quality components, labour etc that makes a good one a really awesome machine.

    If anyone is interested in mine by the way, PM me

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    steve id kill to have your car!

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    Hey rogue, you don't have to kill you just have to buy it
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    I think it's a lot cheaper to do an S3, if you can find a motor and ECU. The ratios in the S3 gearbox are great. The diff needs changing though. The ECU is a straight swap, so you won't have dramas with wiring, RTA etc. I wouldn't get hung up about the 160hp either. It's not that difficult to upgrade from 148hp, and with good gearing I doubt you'd really notice. I think it's more like this:

    engine/ECU $2000
    change diff from 3.62:1 to 3.94:1 $750
    conversion bits/lanour $4000
    new Mi16 clutch $300
    Quaife LSD $1600
    S3 GTi $11000

    $19650

    Who wants one?

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    You guys are talking about a fairly different animal, than dropping a $2500 Mi16 donk in an average $6000 S1 GTi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal
    You guys are talking about a fairly different animal, than dropping a $2500 Mi16 donk in an average $6000 S1 GTi.

    Cal.
    It's still going to cost $8K to drop one into an S1/S2, if you don't have the skills/interest.

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    You're all talking crazy money.
    My car cost $3000 6 years ago(blown motor). Plus about $5500. And I sold the crapper for $9000 or something cos no-one wanted it. And I paid a dealer to do the work!
    In short though, I hated this car. The conversion was excellent, but.... whatever....

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    The problem in Melb is finding the Mi in the first place!

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    I think we're all saying similar things.

    In my opinion, 205-Mi16's only come in 2 flavours - very good.. and very bad.

    I looked at and drove 3 before buying mine and the quality of the conversion and the end result were worlds apart. Yes, if you're prepared to do a lot of the work yourself and use a cheap base car then it can be done more cheaply but in the end, that is what you will have, a cheap, base car with a more powerful motor. IMHO this is only part of the way towards a worthwhile 205-Mi16.

    It also depends on what you're going to use the car for and whether it is your 2nd car used for club level motorsport or whether it's your daily driver. If you talk with many of the 205-mi16 owners on the forum I think you will find many of them have upgraded suspension, LSD, clutch etc because of their intended use and all these parts cost $.

    A few weeks ago I went to a club level motorsport event (timed runs) at a local small track (midvale speed-dome) here in Perth. I went as part of the WRX club with another 38 WRXs, STis etc some of which are modified and there were some reasonably experienced drivers. We ran 3 different track configurations and for the day I came 5th out of 38. I could not have done this with a standard 205 with an Mi16 donk dropped in. It really depends on what you're looking for.

    Either way, I'm glad I bought/built one - it has been awesome but its time to make way for something more frightening and to hand mine over to someone who will enjoy it

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    steve out of curiousity how much do u think u will get/want for the pug

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