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    Is it just me or did it not seem THAT mint? Sure it's schmick, but there is surface rust in the engine bay (RHS guard) etc.

    Ok I'm being picky, but it was definitely an astronomical price that was paid!

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    Whenever anyone went for a test drive in the S1 I had for sale they came back shocked at how heavy the steering was. In the end I gave it away for $2000. I've got to say I've never enjoyed owning a GTi, much happier with the Sis, although my rally car has had a few mods!
    I do enjoy the 309 GTi, the 130 hp D6B engine is a factor in this.

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    Others would know better but S3s offer assisted steering as a major drawcard. In the UK I think the earlier ones are worth more however. S3's are just more likely to be in one piece, especially the dash and a glovebox. Buy any awesome example you can!

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    I drove your S1 Graham and concur that the steering was bloody heavy! Not sure if they are all like that. Perhaps we have short memories and gone all soft too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speaksgeek View Post
    I wonder if (at the risk of generalising) the average frogger is more likely to be interested in a slightly rough, and particularly cheap car, with an eye to doing it up.
    The market on carsales likely encompasses more of the buyer who is interested in a car to drive immediately, in a more immaculate condition - and is prepared to pay for it.
    I agree that you would struggle to sell the carsales $17K blue GTI to the enthusiastic frogger who wants a project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isis View Post
    I drove your S1 Graham and concur that the steering was bloody heavy! Not sure if they are all like that. Perhaps we have short memories and gone all soft too.
    Interesting, (apology for drifting a little off topic) I have two S1 205 GTIs, the white one has terrible steering it feels like it's binding up on something. The silver one has smooth almost light steering even at low speed and stationary.

    If agree with the market vs froggers as it seems get your hand dirty owners look to gravitate here.
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    It had decent tyres 195 50 RE002s, most don't so the steering would be lighter.

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    I drove your S1 Graham and concur that the steering was bloody heavy! Not sure if they are all like that. Perhaps we have short memories and gone all soft too.

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    I actually really enjoyed the non power steering of my previous 205. Sure, there are less turns lock to lock with my series 3, but not convinced that some of the feel hasn't been lost.

    I am a big fan of non power assisted steering though, particularly as only one of our cars has it!
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    The 2.75 turns Si rack is much better than the late GTi one with 3.3.
    Aprilia has a complete system for sale, see parts for sale.
    I don't know why someone hasn't snapped it up?

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    Have spoken to two recent series 1 205 buyers and as one of them said" it is the cheapest classic car one can buy on the market"
    I thought about it later and i think he has a point :}
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    Quote Originally Posted by jr20516v View Post
    Have spoken to two recent series 1 205 buyers and as one of them said" it is the cheapest classic car one can buy on the market"
    I thought about it later and i think he has a point :}
    Valid point, that's definitely what I saw when I purchased our first S1 205GTI early this year. Also my first French car, after seven other classic cars of mixed types prior to this (eight if you count the Datsun Stanza )

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    A genuine appreciating classic car that you can put on vic club plates all for under 10k, the choice is obvious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CEyssens View Post
    Valid point, that's definitely what I saw when I purchased our first S1 205GTI early this year. Also my first French car, after seven other classic cars of mixed types prior to this (eight if you count the Datsun Stanza )
    I had a Stanza too for my first car. I doubt there would be anything left of it now just a red stain on the ground left by the rust. Wish I still had it now though as Datsun prices are climbing through the roof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warus View Post
    I had a Stanza too for my first car. I doubt there would be anything left of it now just a red stain on the ground left by the rust. Wish I still had it now though as Datsun prices are climbing through the roof.
    Mine was a bridge between fast car and company car, it was excellent fun and I basically gave it to a mate once the rego and clutch were gone and the company car arrived. Ah the memories, I wonder if my 205 will do as good handbrake turns?

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    Hand brake turns in an 205 GTi
    2 years ago I was renting a cool store for a workshop on 15 acres in Red Hill, I would fly through the rows of apple trees as fast as I like, once clear of the trees I'd pull the handbrake, doing a smooth 180 on the grass before entering the next row of trees. Oh the Joy.
    Quote Originally Posted by CEyssens View Post
    Mine was a bridge between fast car and company car, it was excellent fun and I basically gave it to a mate once the rego and clutch were gone and the company car arrived. Ah the memories, I wonder if my 205 will do as good handbrake turns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aprilia View Post
    Hand brake turns in an 205 GTi
    2 years ago I was renting a cool store for a workshop on 15 acres in Red Hill, I would fly through the rows of apple trees as fast as I like, once clear of the trees I'd pull the handbrake, doing a smooth 180 on the grass before entering the next row of trees. Oh the Joy.
    Nice!
    I used to reverse into my drive in the stanza... Flying handbrake turn stopping lined up for straight reverse in. Can't imagine getting away with that these days

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    It funny to see the replies they are mostly related to how much fun the cars are to drive. I guess it is to be expected on a forum of like minded people. As to the value I can only speak to my point of view. I grew up with cortinas and escorts that were fun cars to drive as well. I had my first 205 about 15 years ago and while I really enjoyed it... as a primary car it really didn't cut it. I couldn't stand the sqeaks and rattles and trim falling off. I ended up trading it on a 206 gti, then an Audi allroad and now a 308 wagon. Each time I bought a car it lost thousands or 10's of thousands of dollars. So when I came to need a second car the choice was obvious. A 205 that I could restore so it I was happy with everything. Yes I may spend $10K but in the end I have a great car that I love and if done properly is reliable and at the end of the day if I need to sell may or may not return me the money I spent. So for me is is not so much seeing an increase in value rather than not losing lots of value and in the meantime having lots of fun
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    Yes, depreciation sucks. You probably cant overcapitalise on a 205 unless you go seriously nuts and pay someone to strip it right back for you.
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    Yeah doing the work yourself is half the fun. I spend every Tuesday and Thursday afternoon for an hour tinkering with my project car with my boys. I will spend money on good bits like SL434s and nice engine bits, good seats, etc that hopefully will make it nicer but also others will see a valuable should worse come to worse....
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    Keep all your receipts and do a great job, take photo evidence where necessary and you should get your money back if you have to.
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    My 205 has probably cost me $20k to date (and it is nothing special), I might realise $6k, thought it takes at least 20 years off my age each time I drive it. What is its value ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slash.dot.dash View Post
    It funny to see the replies they are mostly related to how much fun the cars are to drive. I guess it is to be expected on a forum of like minded people. As to the value I can only speak to my point of view. I grew up with cortinas and escorts that were fun cars to drive as well. I had my first 205 about 15 years ago and while I really enjoyed it... as a primary car it really didn't cut it. I couldn't stand the sqeaks and rattles and trim falling off. I ended up trading it on a 206 gti, then an Audi allroad and now a 308 wagon. Each time I bought a car it lost thousands or 10's of thousands of dollars. So when I came to need a second car the choice was obvious. A 205 that I could restore so it I was happy with everything. Yes I may spend $10K but in the end I have a great car that I love and if done properly is reliable and at the end of the day if I need to sell may or may not return me the money I spent. So for me is is not so much seeing an increase in value rather than not losing lots of value and in the meantime having lots of fun
    So in effect what you're saying is that you paid shitloads of dinero to drive cars which are no fun and 15 years later you bought back the car you like only crappier (15 years older, anyway) after - hopefully - all that annoying squeaky trim had fallen off, so you can fix it for 10k or so and finally have the fun you missed out on for 15 years?

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    Yes I guess that's called getting older and wiser (or poorer)
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    That pretty much describes half the population who were sold the idea that new and bigger, was better, he is not Robinson Crusoe
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    I guess what was annoying in a newish car is now 'characterful' in an on old (classic) car.

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