Peugeot 205 GTI values

[pgti6]

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[lion5]

the clio williams--> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxLVbIX78UAa bit heavier than the 205 but still looks amazing

[gezza]

Doesn't go that well though imho I much prefer the 205 gti or the 306 gti6 to the olde willy!!

[zitane]

hey guys,

i've let the boys in the gti classic thread know already, but i'm thinking of selling my 205 gti classic (no. 23). i WAS going to put her up on ebay, but thought i'd give you boys the heads up first.

didn't want to do double posts, so here's the link if you were interested:

Peugeot 205 gti classic....

[Richard W]

Interesting that the nice grey s3 205GTI with the respray that was recently advertised on Carsales for $16,000 appears to have sold very quickly - while the pretty average cars that have been advertised there for months at around the $5k mark haven't moved.

I saw that the price was reduced to $14,800. I'm guessing the vendor would have got about $13,000, maybe a bit more? But still a seemingly strong result quite quickly for a car with a cracked dash and over 250,000km on the clock....

Suggests to me something of a split market - demand for very nice 205s when they come up is strong and getting stronger. And relatively little interest in the cars that are tired and past it.

[cam85]

Good point Rich

It had a few issues with the jnterior. Nothing that some money and hunting ebay would not fix.

Time to start respraying all the old 200k+ bodies I have in the yard then!

[schlitzaugen]

I am very suspicious of sales at those prices. Until I see a bill of sale, I reserve judgement.

But. I think there was always a split in the market as Rich suggested. This is the case for all cars not only 205s (bar real exotics where you pay whatever for anything you can find because there's only five of them ever made or something like that). We probably know best (and the rest of the market might very well know some of this too) that the 205 was a victim of its own success. Too many tried to fiddle with these cars and failed hence an unmolested example is a rare thing today whilst the fallen victims are a big (read REALLY BIIIIIG) unknown. Hence the prices you see (i.e. nothing for a "modified" car and significant values for unmolested cars with proven history).

Like I said. The story of all cars fallen victims to their own success. Prices for wrecks is going to go up when the market will perceive the 205 as an exotic (i.e. there'll be only five of them left or thereabouts). Don't think it's gonna happen in our lifetime.

[CEyssens]

I think that the collectable car market has changed quite a bit over the past 10 years. There is now a good proportion of discerning car buyers who don't want a car to work on, they more want a nice car that they can use and or collect. These buyer have helped drive a larger wedge between finished cars and ones that need work. Labour rates to fix cars has also impacted on this gap.
So you can see cars without any mechanical or body issues holding good values.

Nice to see the 205 also gaining those values, I'm more comfortable with my decision to save both Little White & Silver GTIs.... (Not sure they will command those values but worth saving)

[Isis]

Apart from 205s, there really is a bunch of cars that could be aimed for which must be on the precipice of collectability. I reckon the electric/driverless cars will imminently create a Kodak moment, making many current cars look like dinosaurs AND many people wont even bother getting a license? Perhaps within 10 years time, once the rules catch up?

[CEyssens]

Apart from 205s, there really is a bunch of cars that could be aimed for which must be on the precipice of collectability. I reckon the electric/driverless cars will imminently create a Kodak moment, making many current cars look like dinosaurs AND many people wont even bother getting a license? Perhaps within 10 years time, once the rules catch up?

I agree that's definitely going to be a game changer.

[Isis]

Just to add to this, a mere expansion of Uber and other vehicle sharing concepts is even closer than the above. Will we need driveways and carparks much anymore? Few cars, circling around and called when needed.

[FIVEDOOR]

I know of people in London who use share car systems and don't own a car.

In Helsinki some apartment complexes have share car arrangements set up for owners/tenants as an alternative to owning a car, but in both instances the cars supplement excellent public transport systems

[CEyssens]

Loan cars are definitely a growing industry with more share/rent cars around Melbourne, it's a great option for those who live in well connected city areas and only use a car periodically.
Unfortunately for most Australians distances and average public transport dictate car use... Getting a bit off topic but still an interesting change to car use...

Back to 205 GTIs, I wonder how much a really good S1 is worth compared to a comparable condition S3?

[Isis]

Others would know better but S3s offer assisted steering as a major drawcard. In the UK I think the earlier ones are worth more however. S3's are just more likely to be in one piece, especially the dash and a glovebox. Buy any awesome example you can!

[monteman]

I offered my very nice 1990 S1.5 on this forum for $8000 about six weeks ago; 150+ views but not a single bite. (Mis)guided by this lack of response, 36 hours ago I offered it on Carsales at $7900; it sold in 20 minutes for $7000, lots of photos and questions but sight unseen, money in my account in 24 hours. I could have sold it 5 times over to similarly keen buyers, one very disappointed enquirer offered $10000 to gazump the winner.

It was clearly underpriced as I did not reckon with the response, but I did still make a modest profit (labour aside). Clearly the market (but sadly not this one) is open for good unmolested 205GTis, no matter what series, with comprehensive documentation.

[Isis]

Thanks for sharing your experience Monte. Despite the fact that there are only very few of us who bang on about these cars daily, it does seem the broader market remembers their youth too. Many of us realising that the chance to get a pure, minimalist, perfectly analogue car is running out.

[Matthew]

I had one but magic fixed that it would have been the best S1 in Oz by a long shot, i offered here years back for 7K did not get one bite. Glad and sad I have it now but its going to be a lot better one day!

[Isis]

A mint 89 Gti just sold in the uk for 30k pounds, 3X the original buy new price.

[schlitzaugen]

Any link?

[SilverGTi_6]

Any link?

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/...5-1-9-gti-7756

[cam85]

Nice car. 7k original miles. Mint

[Isis]

Perhaps the extreme price just reflects the rarity of such a minter being squirreled away and such low miles, even so...

[cam85]

Yea. Its the super low miler mint pnes that will always sell to someone with plenty of cash who 'wants it'.

As you said Ash, even so...

[robmac]

Like any old "collectible or classic" vehicle or item. A 205 is "worth" what the buyer is prepared to pay.

And that ranges from a few hundred to several thousand dollars, depending on the buyers means and his or her perception of the car.

Not unlike many other non french origin vehicles.

The true value is only decided when the purchaser's funds are transferred to the buyer's account.

[speaksgeek]

I wonder if (at the risk of generalising) the average frogger is more likely to be interested in a slightly rough, and particularly cheap car, with an eye to doing it up.
The market on carsales likely encompasses more of the buyer who is interested in a car to drive immediately, in a more immaculate condition - and is prepared to pay for it.

I offered my very nice 1990 S1.5 on this forum for $8000 about six weeks ago; 150+ views but not a single bite. (Mis)guided by this lack of response, 36 hours ago I offered it on Carsales at $7900; it sold in 20 minutes for $7000, lots of photos and questions but sight unseen, money in my account in 24 hours. I could have sold it 5 times over to similarly keen buyers, one very disappointed enquirer offered $10000 to gazump the winner.

It was clearly underpriced as I did not reckon with the response, but I did still make a modest profit (labour aside). Clearly the market (but sadly not this one) is open for good unmolested 205GTis, no matter what series, with comprehensive documentation.