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    Icon5 505 WINDOW REPLACEMENT

    Has anyone got any clues on replacing a window in a 505 door, in particular how do you remove the stainless steel trim (come weather seal) without destroying the trim or damaging the door? Any help much appreciated.
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    The chrome trim on the inside is attached to the vinyl upholstery trim and comes off in one piece with the entire door trim (pull the bottom of the upholstery door trim out then push it up).

    You should not need to detach this trim from the door trim and you should not need to remove the outer chrome trim either.

    I haven't pulled a 505 windo out, but I've done it a few times on a 504 and from what I can see with the trim off my 505, it shouldn't be any harder, with the exception that on the front doors you may (or may not) have to remove the integrated mirror mounts.

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    The trim I am having trouble with is the one on the outside of the door, which you have to remove to get the window out through the top of the door. The trim is held in place by 5 nylon clips and I haven't been able to release the trim from the clips without damaging the trim. Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCOATES505
    The trim I am having trouble with is the one on the outside of the door, which you have to remove to get the window out through the top of the door.
    Have you removed the steel rail from the bottom of the glass, so that you're left with just the glass?

    Usually, once you do that, on most cars the glass slides right out without having to remove the exterior chrome strip.

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    Default I think your on the right track...

    PCoates, its been a while since I did it but from memory you can not remove the runner attached to the bottom, it is press/crimp fitted and you DO need to remove the outer chrome trim. The cars I did on had only fair bodies so i was not as fussy with minor chips in the paint etc as you might be. What I think I did is partially lift the outer end (assuming the door is open) and once I had enough room for my fingers gave it a gentle but firm tug. From memory one of these had a slight curve afterwards but it was straight once i push firmly back in place after reassembly

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    Quote Originally Posted by ade
    from memory you can not remove the runner attached to the bottom, it is press/crimp fitted
    It's the same press/crimp fit as used on the 504, etc. You usually CAN remove them, although I guess it may be very difficult if a previous owner has glued it in with some really strong adhesive.

    If you can remove the window without doing this and without removing the outer chrome strip, all the better.

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    Pete,

    The door glass comes out very easily. Remove door trim in one piece as described by Dave. Interior door handle surround unclips if pulled. It's easier than it looks and is quite strong. Just pull with finger tips of both hands. Remove arm rest of course. Pull out surround of door lock button ( abit more difficult). The hardest part of the whole job is to get this back in properly. The plastic "press-studs" that hold the door trim to the door are stronger than 504 clips and you can pull off the trim using your fingers without much fear of breaking the clips. Swing the trim panel out at the bottom slight and lift it off the top edge of the door's top edge.
    Remove or loosen the bottom glass channels to allow some movement and after disconnecting the regulator arm, lift the glass out the top on the outside of the door. The outer chrome strip stays where it is.
    If you are fixing a rusted regulator channel, you don't even need to take out the glass. If the channel has rusted to the point where it's affecting the window operation, it's rusted enough to pull off in situ. Clean the glass thoroughly, but mark it so you know where the channel goes back. Use a generous application of Silastic in the new channel and push it onto the glass. No need to use a rubber insert the silicone fills the gap. Wipe off the excess, re-fit the regulator arm and wind up the window tightly. Don't disturb it for at least 24 hours.

    Hope this helps,
    Warwick.

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