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    Default 308 Air Conditioning Questiom

    Hi fellow Froggers

    Our family wagon is a 308 Touring HDi 2.0 manual. It's a Dec 2009 build with about 44k on the clock.

    We only bought it last Feb but did notice then that the air on didn't keep the car quite as cool as our old 2004 Corolla.

    My partner said that today (admittedly it was 40deg in Melbourne) that the car barely cooled down at all

    We have been keeping the panoramic roof cover closed, rear blind up and a sun shield on the windscreen

    The question is, should it need degassing yet or is the aircon a bit feeble on the the 308's?

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    The number of variables when comparing two different cars with different motors are considerable, but Sanden do publish the kW (cooling) values for the refrigerant compressors used in PSA cars. See SANDEN Europe -*Our compressors

    Do you know the make and model used in the Toyota?

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    Sorry - I couldn't tell you what model compressor the Toyota had - we had it for about 7 years and it was never regassed.

    The Corolla only had four air vents (as opposed the the Pug's 7) so I would expect the airflow to be weaker from each vent in the Pug (i have not included the windscreen and floor vents) . However I would expect the Pug's aircon to be strong enoughool the car in 30 plus temepratures

    I'm wondering if other 308 owners experience weak aircon and if so is this normal for 308's??

    Should I need to regas after 4 years?

    I should add the we have the XSE model with climate control.

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    It seems like you need to try regassing . Ac on a modern car should make some difference on a 40 deg day .We have 2 camry wagons ,2000 and 91 and both cope well on the hottest days . I think the old under dash units people fitted in the 70/s seemed to work even better than modern systems because the cool air didn't travel through long pipes under hot dash boards .

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    Does your Peugeot have a dashmat? They sometimes cover the climate control sensor.

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    I have a 2011 308 and while the air con is adequate, I wouldn't say that it is fantastic, particularly on days like today where it is 44 degrees



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    I have always had very goos AC in pugs. Today I was driving in 38c with the car left in the sun for an hour before starting. Within about two minutes the air coming from all vents was very cool, and we did not need to wind down the windows even at the start.

    Car? 406 Hdi 2000 with 450K on the clock.

    I think you should expect the 307 to have AC as good as the Toyota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simo66 View Post
    Sorry - I couldn't tell you what model compressor the Toyota had - we had it for about 7 years and it was never regassed.

    The Corolla only had four air vents (as opposed the the Pug's 7) so I would expect the airflow to be weaker from each vent in the Pug (i have not included the windscreen and floor vents) . However I would expect the Pug's aircon to be strong enoughool the car in 30 plus temepratures

    I'm wondering if other 308 owners experience weak aircon and if so is this normal for 308's??

    Should I need to regas after 4 years?

    I should add the we have the XSE model with climate control.
    Simply put gauges onto the system and see. If it is low on gas then identify and fix the leak. The AC on a modern car (even a Pug ) should work on a 40+ day. My Toyota (2000) and our R19 (1995) both do. Neither have ever been re-gassed.

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    Mine is made by Denso not Sanden

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    Are you using the "Auto" setting? Sometimes it doesn't cope really well.
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    Well-meaning services can result in a pinched o-ring during procedures like TX replacement - this brings about a slow leak.

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    My 207 HDi is the same vintage (early 2012) and I dare say they use the same system. I sit mine on 21 degrees on auto and it works just fine. I recently did a trip to Kalgoorlie and back (1400kms) and it was 43 degrees the whole time. Temperature stayed nice and cool inside. I too have the panoramic roof but its never a problem. I have the blind back most of the time, except through the middle of the day when the sun is directly above.
    I suggest the air con's are a very good system but yours has prolly been faulty from new. I'd get it seen to under waranty and not take no for an answer.
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    You are not alone. Compared to my Golf and our old 307, the 308 is woeful.

    Our neighbour is a 'frosty' and has tested the system. Pressure of gas is fine and it is 'working', just not strong enough to cope with the large amount of glass that a 308 SW has.
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    I believe you should check the cabin filter. A very common cause. No 2 cause is a valve in the compressor which controls the pumping volume.
    A quick check for a blocked cabin filter is to go to "recycle" and check the air flow and the temp. Vehicles today do not go to complete recycle as the cabin seals so well that we can start to get drowsy from the old air so, fresh air inlet is controlled by climate control programs. This means that if the cabin filter is not changed when due or when blocked the air flow volume through the evaporator is reduced considerably.
    I think you'll find the glass roof is heat reflective, much the same as the windscreen but without drawing the curtain against the sun light the interior will heat up.

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