404 engine box conversion
  • Register
  • Help
Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    altona victoria
    Posts
    88

    Default 404 engine box conversion

    Hi all has anyone ever done a 2 litre and a floor shift auto combination into a 404 wagon thank you ....

    Advertisement

  2. #2
    Demannu-facturing! Demannu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Menzies Creek
    Posts
    2,541

    Default

    I'd say that you would at least have to widen the lower section of the transmission tunnel. I fitted a BA7/4 with a floor shift to a '64 404 wagon, and it was VERY squeezy.

    Also, with the 1:1 ratio in top gear (same as third in the BW or ZF3HP22 autos), the stock diff ratio has it revving it's head off. It maxxed out at about 120km/h. However, that was an early model originally with a C3 gearbox, I can't remember what the ratios were in the early or later wagons.
    Scotty

    Melbourne - Dandenong Ranges

    1956 Peugeot 403 - 'Francois' - resto project

    1969 Peugeot 504 - 'Pascal' - daily driver project

    1970 Peugeot 404 Utility - 'Brutus' - resto project

    1978 Peugeot 604 - as yet unnamed - V6 on straight LPG

    1987 Peugeot 505 - as yet unnamed - project car

    1999 Peugeot 406 Coupé - 'Chloe' - 5 speed manual

    2011 Peugeot 3008 XTE HDi - 'Zoe' - hatchback on steroids

    2014 Peugeot RCZ - 'Remy'

    1999 Range Rover 4.6 HSE - 'Grover' - tow car

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    altona victoria
    Posts
    88

    Default

    Hi Demannu my wagon is a 70 /71 model don't know if this makes any difference to the need for modifications

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    altona victoria
    Posts
    88

    Default

    I also might be able to help with parts for your 403 resto project

  5. #5
    Demannu-facturing! Demannu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Menzies Creek
    Posts
    2,541

    Default

    Being a later model, yours would already have a BA7 gearbox. I can't remember if the tunnels are any different between the early and late models, but if you have a 2 litre with an auto at your disposal, I recommend that you measure the width of the transmission pan, and the width of the bottom of the transmission tunnel at what would be the most rearmost point of the pan when it's installed. You will want a good inch clearance all round when installed.

    Can I ask why you're considering the conversion?

    You have my attention with regards to 403 parts What sort of bits do you have down there?
    Scotty

    Melbourne - Dandenong Ranges

    1956 Peugeot 403 - 'Francois' - resto project

    1969 Peugeot 504 - 'Pascal' - daily driver project

    1970 Peugeot 404 Utility - 'Brutus' - resto project

    1978 Peugeot 604 - as yet unnamed - V6 on straight LPG

    1987 Peugeot 505 - as yet unnamed - project car

    1999 Peugeot 406 Coupé - 'Chloe' - 5 speed manual

    2011 Peugeot 3008 XTE HDi - 'Zoe' - hatchback on steroids

    2014 Peugeot RCZ - 'Remy'

    1999 Range Rover 4.6 HSE - 'Grover' - tow car

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    altona victoria
    Posts
    88

    Default

    Ive just bought a 78 504 hence the 2 litre and auto the body on the 504 is totally rusted out plus the 404 wagon didn't have an engine when I got it The 504 was bought at a good price so I thought it might be a good conversion as I haven't heard of this being done before

  7. #7
    Demannu-facturing! Demannu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Menzies Creek
    Posts
    2,541

    Default

    Go for it. Got a welder? Worst case, you can add a bit of metal at the bottom of the tunnel and make it fit. You'll need to weld up some sort of bracket to hold the gear selector mechanism, so while you're there, make any necessary adjustments.

    What year is the 504? Any other good bits on it? I'm in the market for 504 bits too
    Scotty

    Melbourne - Dandenong Ranges

    1956 Peugeot 403 - 'Francois' - resto project

    1969 Peugeot 504 - 'Pascal' - daily driver project

    1970 Peugeot 404 Utility - 'Brutus' - resto project

    1978 Peugeot 604 - as yet unnamed - V6 on straight LPG

    1987 Peugeot 505 - as yet unnamed - project car

    1999 Peugeot 406 Coupé - 'Chloe' - 5 speed manual

    2011 Peugeot 3008 XTE HDi - 'Zoe' - hatchback on steroids

    2014 Peugeot RCZ - 'Remy'

    1999 Range Rover 4.6 HSE - 'Grover' - tow car

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    altona victoria
    Posts
    88

    Default

    Its a 78 model

  9. #9
    1000+ Posts
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    HOBART
    Posts
    1,265

    Default

    I have fitted 2 litre motors into 2 404s some years ago. The motor simply bolts into place as the block is essentially the same. You will need to modify the air cleaner if you wanted the oil bath type. If your 504 has the cartridge type mounted on the rocker cover still, I don't expect you'll have a problem.
    I haven't seen an automatic 404 though they were sold in Europe and probably the US. The 404 is a great car and should be preserved where ever possible.
    If you have to get the conversion inspected, make sure that everything you do is clearly detailed, & maybe you'll need an engineer's certificate.


    Via the aussiefrogs App
    1998 Peugeot 406 D8SV Manual
    1999 Peugeot 406 D8ST Auto
    2002 Peugeot 406 D9SV Manual
    1994 Peuegot 306 N3 Cabriolet Manual
    1994 Peugeot 306 XR N3 Hatch
    1995 Peugeot 505 GTI executive
    1976 Peugeot 504 Sedan - Now sold

    Over 60 Pugs in my time
    Gerry Mullock

  10. #10
    Fellow Frogger! Bruce Llewellyn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Toowoomba
    Posts
    650

    Default

    The ZF 3 HP 22 from a 505 will fit. Look for one out of an SR or SLi wagon, since you need the universal joint.

    Automatic 404s used a column shift, the bits for which may be available second hand from US.

    The kickdown cable setting is critical. If you get it a little bit wrong, the clutches burn out.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •