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    Hi all,

    am currently converting my 205 to twin Weber DCOE 45 and have struck an issue. The alternator is in the way of the new manifold and I can't lower it any further as it hits the power steering pump.
    My options seem to be find a bracket to lower the whole lot, which I can't seem to find, or remove the power steering to make room to lower the alternator.
    As this is a competition car I'm not fussed about losing the power steer, just want to know if anyone has encountered this and could offer some advice.

    Thanks.

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    Sort of related but a different problem. What are you using for ignition?

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    Just a normal coil, planning to upgrade it at some stage but haven't yet.

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    Yes, but what will fire the coil? How will the advance curve be determined?

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    I don't know, whatever did it before. The car was already carb so I'm simply replacing the single carb with two and have found the alternator in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edd205 View Post
    I don't know, whatever did it before. The car was already carb so I'm simply replacing the single carb with two and have found the alternator in the way.

    does it have air cond? if so you will need to ditch it and try using a non air cond alt bracket?

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    It did have but I've ditched it. Is the bracket from a non a.c. car different?

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    in my early days on this forum, 2007 with my newly backontheroad GTi, I remember
    somewhere here advertizing an Si, Blue Mountains maybe, with various GTi bits and a downdraught Weber,
    is that your car Edd? it sounded good. good luck with the DCOEs.

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    You would probably need the alternator bracket off a non PS car (and ditch the PS).

    This might be a problem though because I have noticed quite a difference in steering weight between my PS Si (engine off) and non PS GTI which makes me think the rack is quicker on PS cars.
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    Yes, of course, 2.75 turns for the Si.
    The suggestion made to me by Adrian was to use an Astra electric PS pump.
    I have for the moment decided to use the ITBs with a 16 valve, but would use the Astra pump if I put them on my 8 valve engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    You would probably need the alternator bracket off a non PS car (and ditch the PS). This might be a problem though because I have noticed quite a difference in steering weight between my PS Si (engine off) and non PS GTI which makes me think the rack is quicker on PS cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lozenge View Post
    in my early days on this forum, 2007 with my newly backontheroad GTi, I remember
    somewhere here advertizing an Si, Blue Mountains maybe, with various GTi bits and a downdraught Weber,
    is that your car Edd? it sounded good. good luck with the DCOEs.
    I bought it from a guy in the Adelaide hills at the beginning of this year, went hard even with the DGV, so can't wait to get the DCOEs running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS View Post
    Yes, of course, 2.75 turns for the Si.
    The suggestion made to me by Adrian was to use an Astra electric PS pump.
    I have for the moment decided to use the ITBs with a 16 valve, but would use the Astra pump if I put them on my 8 valve engine.
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    Which year Astra would this be from? What is involved in the install?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edd205 View Post
    It did have but I've ditched it. Is the bracket from a non a.c. car different?

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    it may be the power steering that gets in the way i cant remember either way im pretty sure that there are two types of alternator brakets. sorry to give you a bump steer i think im getting my ac and ps mixed up ive been living in the world of datsuns.

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    I fitted EHPS from a '94 TS Astra into my 405. It's a pretty straight forward job. I'm sure there's room in a 205 engine bay to do the same.
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    OK well this is definitely worth some consideration but this kind of thing is new to me. Could anyone run me through the basic points of the install?

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