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    Default 406 Ride Height. Knock back during inspection

    Hi,

    Does any one have ride height for Peugeot 406 SV D8 sedan 1997.
    I just got back for being too low.
    I asked if they had different ride heights for SV and ST and they said they only had one.
    I forgot to ask if they were using coupe or sedan ride height.

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    I have checked checked a coupe spring and it is the same wire diameter and appears to have the same number of coils.

    Can any one shed some light?

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    That is very strange.

    How high is the lowest point from the ground? Lower than 100mm?
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    No not less than 100mm.
    The inspector wants 355mm from wheel centre to top of wheel arch.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    No not less than 100mm.
    The inspector wants 355mm from wheel centre to top of wheel arch.



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    Just checked my D8 - the distance from the wheel centre to to top of the wheel arch (u/side guard) is 370mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    No not less than 100mm.
    The inspector wants 355mm from wheel centre to top of wheel arch.
    Suspension modification - Government of South Australia


    Page 135, Your inspector seems to be on the money here, at least with his documentation.

    From the first page:

    SUSPENSION CLEARANCE
    Under Section 25 of the Road Traffic (Miscellaneous) Regulations 1999, the available suspension travel of a vehicle must not be reduced by more than one third. The specifications included in this list are the minimum allowable.


    If those figures are correct, it seems like your's has been lowered a fair bit?
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    It's not a 'sports pack' is it? They came (from factory) with an Eibach spring kit, lowered 30mm, which I think basically replicated the Coupe specs at the time. They had 16x7" wheels, Remus exhaust system and little lip spoilers front and rear, with another option of a boot spoiler. I'm pretty certain you could get any combination of the options, it wasn't necessarily an 'all-in' deal.

    Coupe suspension in a sedan or wagon would generally be illegal, it would drop it below the eyebrow clearance.
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    Coupe suspension in a sedan handles fantastic though and looks great! isn't Coupe suspension the 30 mm lower eibach kit you could get?

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    The car has the rear spoiler on the boot and after market 17".
    I bought the car online and didn't get any books with it, so I don't know full specification when it was originally purchased.

    Had to rip the tint off the rear window and drivers rear window.
    It also has cables running everywhere for subwoofers and speakers that are about to get ripped out.

    I am just about to order adjustable strut tops to get extra camber for track days.
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    Is this the black one from manheim? Looked like a good buy! I would have gone down and had a bid but was too busy at work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cav91 View Post
    Coupe suspension in a sedan handles fantastic though and looks great! isn't Coupe suspension the 30 mm lower eibach kit you could get?

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    The coupe suspension was produced in-house. From what I have heard, the Australian 'sports pack' used Eibach springs because they were cheaper to source than the factory coupe springs - even by the dealer. So they ordered them to the same specs.

    Coupe suspension in a coupe looks even better
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    This one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    The car has the rear spoiler on the boot and after market 17".
    I bought the car online and didn't get any books with it, so I don't know full specification when it was originally purchased.

    Had to rip the tint off the rear window and drivers rear window.
    It also has cables running everywhere for subwoofers and speakers that are about to get ripped out.

    I am just about to order adjustable strut tops to get extra camber for track days.

    Sounds like it could be one of the rare sports packs!

    I think we need some pictures
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    No not less than 100mm.
    The inspector wants 355mm from wheel centre to top of wheel arch.



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    Yep thats that's the one.

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    I'll get some more up once I have got it through approval.
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    It has a standard exhaust unfortunately.
    The exhaust note is very different to my coupe though.

    Made it through inspection

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    It got a wash and there are a few dents and scratches


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    Quote Originally Posted by Demannu View Post
    The coupe suspension was produced in-house. From what I have heard, the Australian 'sports pack' used Eibach springs because they were cheaper to source than the factory coupe springs - even by the dealer. So they ordered them to the same specs.

    Coupe suspension in a coupe looks even better
    Oh OK I see then!

    Yeah I agree the coupe springs look better in a coupe, but in a squashed coupe ie about to get scrapped, I think they look better still being used even in a sedan lol!

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    They didn't knock back the 17 inch wheels then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    The car has the rear spoiler on the boot and after market 17".
    I bought the car online and didn't get any books with it, so I don't know full specification when it was originally purchased.

    Had to rip the tint off the rear window and drivers rear window.
    It also has cables running everywhere for subwoofers and speakers that are about to get ripped out.

    I am just about to order adjustable strut tops to get extra camber for track days.

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    Wheels got through ok.

    The tyres are 215/45R17 which match closely with the original 205/60R15, but I don't know if they checked.

    I have a set of coupe Brembo callipers which were going on my 206, I think I am going to put them on this car now.


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    Brett,

    the following may help you with the factory specs.


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    Santa came late
    406 Ride Height. Knock back during inspection-imageuploadedbyaussiefrogs1389680113.373734.jpg

    I wonder how much camber I can dial up and down for track days? And whether it is worth making up adjustable rear links over the current offset bolt arrangement.
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    What brand are the strut tops? Are the intended for use with coilovers or standard/Bilstein OE struts?
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    I wonder how much camber I can dial up and down for track days? And whether it is worth making up adjustable rear links over the current offset bolt arrangement.

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    K2
    Intended for coil overs.
    I modified them to suit standard Koni, but spring diameter limits adjustability.
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    Old thread bumped.
    2002 D9 SV.
    I'm thinking of lowering the rear ~30mm but don't necessarily want harder springs (i.e. not new after-market 'sports' springs). So would be happy with the current springs (rate).

    Do the ends of the spring need to align at a certain angle OR can they simply be cut (grinder) say half a coil? I know the bottom has to be orientated to fit in a recess but not sure about the top - can the top end-of-spring finish at any angle and sit in the top mount OK or is it recessed also?

    Alternatively, given above discussion, can I get coupe springs and they fit straight in, lowering ~30mm? Is it the same story for the front?
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