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    In our engine lab we have mounted a DW10 on testbed as shown in pictures below. We currently have concerns that if the engine is sitting properly; like, if it is tilted at an angle, etc.

    We replaced oil in our engine recently and for some reason 5L of oil added to the engine doesn't show more than 3/4th of the full reading on the oil level dip stick. I have attached some pictures of our engine on the mount.


    I always wanted to take some photos of this engine sitting in a car to compare it with our setup, but never had access to a 308. Could someone in the forum please share some photos of your 308 that has a DW10 engine showing the engine mounting and as much details possible to help us verify our engine positioning?

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    It's buried under the firewall/plenum on most PSA cars like the 307 and 308, so alignment pictures are difficult, I would have thought.

    Have you tried Google?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206 View Post
    It's buried under the firewall/plenum on most PSA cars like the 307 and 308, so alignment pictures are difficult, I would have thought.

    Have you tried Google?

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    These are my only pics:

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    Thanks Simon for the pics. I did try google, but couldn't find much details. Looking from the engine mount side of our setup, do you think the engine is now sitting at an angle? Afterall, does it affect the engine if it is seated at an angle?

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    It looks over-tilted to me - you don't want the crankshaft thrashing the sump oil or the dipstick in the shallow end. I think the pistons are probably vertical, but the offset cam wheel will give the belt cover a tilted appearance.

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    there's lots of room under the 407 bonnet, I"ll pull the plastic cover off and stick a spirit level against the motor so you can see how tilted it is in comparison when I get a chance.
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    It looks a little to tilted to me.
    You will notice that the sump is deeper at the front then the rear. If i remember correctly, the base of the pan should seat close to horizontal but with a slight tilt towards the rear (where the sump plug is) so the oil will drain correctly.
    From the pics, to me tilt looks more pronounced then it should be.

    BTW. If its the same sump as a 407 then it will take a little over 5 liters. 5 1/4 if I'm correct.

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    Have a look at the top engine mount bracket - it should be flat. Here's a drawing from PSA. Your dipstick is now in an oil shallow.
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    Are you sure you have the correct dip stick fitted ,can someone supply the length from the stop to the tip ,pugs

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    I've got the 6 speed gearbox off my 307 HDi (DW10BTED4) at the moment to change the clutch and flywheel.
    Below are two pics of the angle of the engine. One is with the level square on the ground while the other is me compensating for the fact the front of the car is up on jack stands.




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    Thank you for those photos.

    Would you be able to take a few measurements from the ground to the marked points in the attached photo?Peugeot 2.0 HDi (DW10BTED4) engine alignment - Can someone post photos of engine bay?-img_20130927_173111.jpg

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    Seeing you have a to scale photograph and the spirit level is vertical could you not use a square and rule ? I doubt that a degree or two is going to upset your testing.
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    [QUOTE=seasink;1196899]Have a look at the top engine mount bracket - it should be flat.


    This is correct the top right engine mount should be horizontal, this is the correct angle then for the engine.

    Cheers george

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    Thanks ae86levin . The photos you post did help. We end up not changing the alignment as we found the engine is sitting quite similar as in the photos and the engine mount is horizontal as seasink and georgehifimentioned.

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