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    Default What to look out for when purchasing a 306 GTi6?

    for some time now I've been on the hunt for a fun, economical car to replace my current daily driver; and recently I stumbled upon a 306 GTi6.

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    The car is a 1998 model, which has covered 157,000km. Aside from an aftermarket headunit, it appears to be stock. It's owned by an ex-Peugeot mechanic, who has for his 12 months of ownership undertaken all maintenance himself. According to the history he gave me, he's the third owner, with the original owner having the car right up until ~2010. Unfortunately there isn't any service history available. According to the owner, the swaybar endlink bushings will need replacement soon as he's witnessed some crashing over speedhumps (unfortunately I didn't have to opportunity to see this myself during the initial test drive)

    I've checked for the basics - No signs of crash repair, no obvious leaks or noises - but I don't know what areas specific to the GTi6 (and 306's in general) should be inspected.

    The issues I've identified with the car are all cosmetic:
    - The front lower valance is cracked and has a hole from hitting an animal
    - The clearcoat on the roof is hazy and peeling in areas
    - The driver's right-hand bolster and gearknob both have some damage
    - The backlight for the digital clock in the center console doesn't work

    So, could someone give me some pointers as to what to look for in this car? Given that I'm inexperienced in all things Peugeot; would I be best served taking this to a specialist mechanic for a once over? And finally, assuming that all is otherwise 'right' with the car, how much is one of these worth on today's market?

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    Good choice of car, the first thing I would ask about is the water pump and timing belt. When were they last done.

    The seats are a common problem, stugti6 on this site as well as another forumer have full sets they are selling if your interested. The gear knob is available on eBay.co.uk for about $30. As is a replacement unit for the clock, about $10 I what I paid for mine and its an easy fix with a torx set. It's probably just a blown bulb anyway which is even cheaper to replace.

    I'd drive it and see if the clutch is still in good knick. The gear boxes are pretty strong so that should be tight.
    Personally I have replaced timing belt, water pump, clutch kit, all engine mounts, bushes, suspension, muffler. The list goes on, but I bought a bad example,

    I wouldn't look to pay more that $3000 for one myself. Good Luke and keep us posted on how you go

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    Clock is an easy fix, front bumper is plastic not fibreglass and therefore repair is different. Seat wear (are they leather?) is normal, gearknobs deteriorate too. Failing paint is the biggest item you've raised - rectification as it progressively fails across the exterior of the car will run between $3500 and $5500 for most cases. It really has to be taken back to the primer coat and made new from there.

    Without any paperwork (even parts receipts) I wouldn't value maintenance stories too highly. Mechanical related items outside the engine/gearbox commonly include brake hoses, motor mounts, rear beam, lower control arms, drop links, strut tops, rack gaiters and ends (inner/outer). A good number of these see the owners live in denial, or attempt to "fix" something that is not the cause of noise or instability.

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    Thanks for the advice so far

    Quote Originally Posted by trihardthlete View Post
    I'd drive it and see if the clutch is still in good knick. The gear boxes are pretty strong so that should be tight.
    I've had a ~15min drive of it, and the clutch felt good, no sign of slippage. The owner had recently done work on the gearbox linkages, so the shift action felt perfect to my hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by addo
    Mechanical related items outside the engine/gearbox commonly include brake hoses, motor mounts, rear beam, lower control arms, drop links, strut tops, rack gaiters and ends (inner/outer). A good number of these see the owners live in denial, or attempt to "fix" something that is not the cause of noise or instability.

    Perhaps I should track down a specialist to give the car a once over then? I'm not sure I'd be able to work out the state of repair of all those things.



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    It's easier just to assume they all need doing, and budget accordingly.

    Not everything needs to come brand new from Peugeot. Some items like lower arms, you can buy a worn out set, recondition them and just swap in. You might even do the same with a rear beam. Excessive downtime eats up the fun quickly.

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    A 306 in Tasmania?

    The first thing I would check is if the heater works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC206 View Post
    A 306 in Tasmania?

    The first thing I would check is if the heater works.
    Last winter I daily drove a 60's Holden which wasn't highly specced enough to have a proper heater. I think I'm immune to cold now, but i'll check it out (it was a fairly hot day by tasmanian standards)

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    That's the one, though the ad I found for it was on carsales
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    His asking price is way to high if its on the condition you say it is. I paid $2200 for mine

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    that is the best colour for them!!!

    Yeah make sure the heater hasn't been bypassed. The cores leak and then get bypassed to save an expencive dash out job to replace. Just turn it on and make it goes nice and hot
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    I would be making sure that the timing belt and tensioners etc were either done recently or you do it pronto if you buy it. 16 crashed valves = no fun, and these are a little prone to throwing belts if everything is not 'just right' in the timing department.

    As someone else mentioned, the condition of the rear beam is important too - both this and the timing belt are pretty expensive jobs to do but pay you back in spades as far as piece of mind and overall enjoyment of the car. Taking it to someone that knows French cars probably isn't a bad idea if you aren't that experienced in these matters.

    As far as the interior goes - things will fall off, plastic bits will break - it's french - vive la difference! But not much will give you as much fun or keep up with you on tassie roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trihardthlete View Post
    His asking price is way to high if its on the condition you say it is. I paid $2200 for mine
    I'd sooner set my gti6 on fire and watch it burn than sell it to anyone for that price. You may have scored the bargain of the century but then again you may be nothing more than a price knockdown troll.

    Back OT: As long as the driveline and steering all feel smooth (the gearboxes even on a good day aren't as slick as some other makes though!) with no visible problems, and the timing belt was changed not too long ago I'd say its a great car to take a punt on. You probably want to be sure the clutch has a fair bit of life left it it too as its a hassle to change. Gotta remember these were a $40k+ car when new, and are very fun, but yes they're getting on in years now so can't expect it to be flawless.

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    In terms of pricing, why cut off your nose to spite your face?

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    Well the seller wanted 2500 unregistered. I offered 2200, far from a price knockdown troll. I have spent a lot getting it into semi decent condition and looking at the prices that people are asking for them. Anything over $5000 is asking to much. Unless they are in great condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trihardthlete View Post
    Well the seller wanted 2500 unregistered. I offered 2200, far from a price knockdown troll. I have spent a lot getting it into semi decent condition and looking at the prices that people are asking for them. Anything over $5000 is asking to much. Unless they are in great condition.
    I agree. And this is why this car has been for sale for awhile. Normally these days you you would expect to pay at most $7000, for a mint one with low km's. A late model of the final facelift variety. Late 1999 build date onwards. Having said that, you're looking at a real bang for your buck car here if you get a good one. One of the sweetest gearboxes ever. A ground breaking car in it's day. There are 306's, and then there is the Gti6..a totally different beast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trihardthlete View Post
    Well the seller wanted 2500 unregistered. I offered 2200, far from a price knockdown troll. I have spent a lot getting it into semi decent condition and looking at the prices that people are asking for them. Anything over $5000 is asking to much. Unless they are in great condition.
    I agree. And this is why this car has been for sale for awhile. Normally these days you you would expect to pay at most $7000, for a mint one with low km's. A late model of the final facelift variety. Late 1999 build date onwards. Having said that, you're looking at a real bang for your buck car here if you get a good one. One of the sweetest gearboxes ever. A ground breaking car in it's day. There are 306's, and then there is the Gti6..a totally different beast.
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    It feels so long ago that I was looking at that 306!

    I ended up with a Peugeot in the long run, just not the GTi6 above. I purchased a 205 GTI this week.

    Thanks for all the advice given in this thread
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    Well you will have to put some pictures up of your lovely new beast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkish View Post
    I purchased a 205 GTI this week.
    Was that the white series 2 on eBay that had the DKZ motor transplant and the series 3 interior? If it was as described and nicely sorted, it sounds like it could be a nice little car with most of the normal expensive issues already done.

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    Awesome! welcome to the club. ANy dramas with it, there is loads of people who can help you keep it on the road.

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    well in that case i think i'll hang onto my 306 untill there isn't any more fuel left on the planet to run it as there is no way i would part with mine for a stupid price like 2k

    they are far too much car for that money
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    I totally agree that they are way too much car for $2k.

    But in my defense the buyer was selling it for his brother in law and wanted to off load it quickly, his asking price was 2500 as I stated above. The knockdown troll was the other buyer who offered $1000. I went $2200. We all need to barter don't we. I knew it needed a RWC, rego, new clutch, new exhaust, full engine mounts, front bushes, 4 new tyres. The list went on and on. So if I could save $2200. Good for me. I spent over 5k just to get it on the road. In hindsight I should of waited and bought a mint one for 7k+ but only one of those has come up in the last year and a half.
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    mine is a one owner 105k car

    needs the bonnet painted and time wise is due for a timing belt but that's it

    i do toy with the idea of parting with it but when i see the prices people seem to be letting them go at i'd rather it sit in my driveway under a cover
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