my just purchased 205 Gti problems =(
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    my just purchased 205 Gti problems =(

    Well after purchasing the 205 yesterday and driving home on the freeway from newcastle to sydney, the car is idling funny now.

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    It does sit at 900rpm (or whatever it should be). it goes to 900 and drops to say 750 and up to 900, drops etc. Its annoying sitting in traffic... what should i look for?

    Also, it doesn't start properly. The previous owner says its a sticky starter solenoid or something like that. Its happening each time i start now. turn the key and the car will just click and not start. Wait a bit, play around with teh gearbox(he suggested that) and it will eventually turn over. any fixes to this or more info needed?

    thanks!!!

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    Eratic idle is usually a dirty AFM, try cleaning it out with carby cleaner, just dont get any carby cleaner on the plastic box.

    Also check all your vacum hoses to the throtle box, make sure their is no air leaks and no blocks.

    Did you buy Chad's 205? That has been sitting for a long time so maybe maybe it just needs a good trashing to clean out the pipes. I can help you there if you wish dance
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    2009 207gti
    1985 505gti (Shitbox Rally) Sold

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    Oran Park: 1:27:9
    Wakefield: 1:05.6 (July 2015)
    Eastern Creek: 1:47 (16V) 2019
    Mt Huntley: 34.44 (2004 stock 205)
    Ringwood: 35.06 (30/10/2005)
    Winton: 1:33.6 (2017)

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    Also check what codes the ECU is showing. That might give you an idea of where the problem is. Thats if you can on a series 1.

    If all else fails, take it to Paul Vassalo and he will sort it all out.
    90 205 Gti Cherry Red(Track Car)
    2009 207gti
    1985 505gti (Shitbox Rally) Sold

    PBs:

    Oran Park: 1:27:9
    Wakefield: 1:05.6 (July 2015)
    Eastern Creek: 1:47 (16V) 2019
    Mt Huntley: 34.44 (2004 stock 205)
    Ringwood: 35.06 (30/10/2005)
    Winton: 1:33.6 (2017)

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    Yes it is chads, will try the carby cleaner...fingers crossed. I have been giving it a good thrashing head_ban

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    Keep in mind even a 205gti in perfect tune is still a lil uneven at idle....you won't achieve japanese "is the engine running?" low rpm idle

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    Even after a full service and new plugs etc mine still idled all over the place.

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    and this would make the car a bit shaky?? thats the annoying thing...

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    Pugsly:
    and this would make the car a bit shaky?? thats the annoying thing...
    nahh, shouldn't "shake" much....

    Are the engine mounts etc ok?

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    i darno about the engine mounts, i will take it to paul to have a look since i don't know what to look for.

    what about blowing smoke? i've seen it blow smoke a few times, not all the time, sometimes when i take off... that a bad sign? =(

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    A little bit of smoke could just be valve stem seals/guides (the cheap option).......or the engine is starting to get a bit tired (rings, sleaves etc, ie rebuild)...
    either way, if it's not much it probably has plenty of life left in it

    "paul" will be able to tell you more about that too

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    I'd take it somewhere and get them to have a good look over it and tell you everything that needs fixing.

    Mine needed the engine mounts shimmed up as well. Yours sounds fairly similar to mine. If the idle is dropping considerably low it may cause the car to shake.

    Darren

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    All Pugs of that era suffer from faulty ignition switches. As the contacts in the switch wear, there is no longer enough current to energise the solenoid. The solution is to add a relay (electrically) near the solenoid. The ignition switch fires the relay, then the relay fires the solenoid. If it's done well, you can hide the relay in the black box on the fender. You don't won't the relay down next to the solenoid. It will get hot, the fail anyway.

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    Peter, is this a simple procedure?

    What kind of relay should i purchase?

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    A standard good quality driving light type relay will do. It's a simple job for an auto electrician, after removing the inlet manifold.

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    My starter started to do the same thing then failed completely. Turned out that the rear main bearing was throwing oil out and eventually contributed to the starter failing. My 205 s1 was idling a lot worse and it was the lambda sensor (they have a shelf life).
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    I have just put my car in which Paul V and he has given it the complete once over (he's very thorough and knowledgable - highly recommended).

    The benefit of this is (as Darren/YELO suggests) is that you know exactly what needs to be done and you can "pace" the fixes over time.

    For me i am spending a "bit" of dough on getting the car right, however i plan to keep it for some time and do some track events, so i want to get everything in order (over time of course).

    Don't forget the car you bought is nearly 15 years old and has not been used regularly.
    ashleyt

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