505 GR steering rack woes - can I use a 'powered rack' without the 'power' ?
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    Default 505 GR steering rack woes - can I use a 'powered rack' without the 'power' ?

    Folks,
    I have a GR (non power assisted) steering.
    The steering rack has a clunk in it.
    The car is unregistered and has to pass a 'blue slip' inspection. I do not expect it will do that with the 'clunky' rack that is in it.

    I have been looking for a decent rack but not had much luck finding one.

    I have a steering rack out of a 505 STI that is a power assisted system

    This posting

    http://www.505turbo.com/forum/index....steering-rack/

    suggests that I can use it.....all I have to do it plug the lines.

    Is it legal, will it work ?

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    May I ask for your advices please.


    Many thanks in anticipation.

    Ted

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    Depends on the inspector really. If you plug it, they are not going to notice otherwise, unless they are really tuned into the car. Take it to any non-pug specialist/blue slipper and you should be ok.
    The wrong oil is better than no oil at all.

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    I removed mine in a 90 CRX I had, best thing I ever did. Made it tough parking and other slow speed stuff, but it was magic when driving.
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    It will work fine. Just be aware also that to use the power steering rack, you will also need the lower section of the steering column (which is shorter), and exhaust downpipe from a P/S model, and the sandwich plate for the PulseAir system needs to be fitted.
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    You can get anti rattle kits, not too difficult to fit. Do the rack eye bushes etc while it's out of the car. The non-power 505 uses the same rack assy in early models as late 504, but the tie rods are longer, which menas that an early 504 rack will bolt to the crossmember but not match the tie rods.

    It will be very heavy to park with the power rack and no power...

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    Hi
    I use a 505 power steer rack in the rally car with only 2 problems It is heavy to park and with the large castor angle I use it will load up a lot in tighter courners when you are going hard on the tar.


    I have a 505 GR non power rack if you need one.


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    Ted,
    If the knock persists after all these knowledgable ideas, remove the upper steering column with the uni joints. Check for "knottiness".
    They can be freed up with a soft hammer blow then working them through their full angularity. Leaving the column overnight in an oil bath may help also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 505STI View Post
    Folks,
    I have a GR (non power assisted) steering.
    The steering rack has a clunk in it.
    The car is unregistered and has to pass a 'blue slip' inspection. I do not expect it will do that with the 'clunky' rack that is in it.

    I have been looking for a decent rack but not had much luck finding one.

    I have a steering rack out of a 505 STI that is a power assisted system

    This posting

    http://www.505turbo.com/forum/index....steering-rack/

    suggests that I can use it.....all I have to do it plug the lines.

    Is it legal, will it work ?

    May I ask for your advices please.


    Many thanks in anticipation.

    Ted

    A clunk in a steering rack is quite rare, are you sure its not a rack eye bush, anti rattle bush or steering flector. All of which are cheap and easy the change with the rack in the car.

    We have some second hand racks in stock if it does turn out to be internal but I doubt it.
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    Folks,

    Thanks very much for your help.

    I'll follow advices above and get under it early Saturday morning and try and find out a bit more.

    Sincere appreciation for all the feedback.

    Ted

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    Get you $45 worth out of your blue slip inspection and let them tell you whats wrong with it, assuming they actually drive it to notice.

    If they dont notice it , great, and if they do there is something you need to fix.

    I do minimal prep for blue slips, and I'm always amazed when it gets through first go.
    Minimal means cleaning the engine bay, as a primary function of the blue slip inspection is to record vin and engine numbers.
    No one like working on a grubby car, especially not for the few dollars of profit the workshops make.

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    Hi
    I have found my 505 GR non power steer rack if you still need it


    Andy 0414 223 817
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