Peugeot/Citroen MA gearbox, bell-housing pattern?

[Berridale]

The MA gearbox is shared by a few Citroen /Peugeot cars .
Does the MA refer to the gearbox internals rather than the casing and internals?

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A Citroen Xsara has a cable operated clutch like a P 206 1.6, so will the Xsara box directly swap/fit into the 206 ?

gearbox ratio's don't concern me.

Berridale

[addo]

The MA is a whole gearbox design. It's end cover has three bolts instead of the BE's eight, the bellhousing has starter to the rear instead of to the front, the input shaft is different, the bearing set differs, I suspect the final drive gears are not interchangeable either.

The MA was subject to something like an "Improved" designation in the later '90s. If you're going from pull cable to pull cable, yes it should go in - however refer the recent thread by Dennis Alderton where we workshopped a bunch of weaknesses...



#tyrechoices

[Berridale]

So the MA from the Citroen Xsara will bolt up to the 206 1.6 engine?

[addo]

I'd be confident to say it will.

[Berridale]

addo;
"I'd be confident to say it will."

any body able to confirm ?

600 klm drive to the wreckers for me.

[addo]

Have you compared the bellhousings on Service Citroen and Service Box?

How confident are you, the wreckers will sell you a durable item? Fit is one thing, lifespan another. From what I've seen, I wouldn't trust a used box to be anything other than a starting point.

Edit: Pug and Cit have different P/Ns on the bellhousing. There's at least three incarnations of bellhousing for each, although the block appears to not have changed its mount face. Possibly the factory tinkering with clutch assembled height, to reduce pedal effort. Simplest approach would be to work off your VIN and the proposed donor.

[Berridale]

Addo, OK.

The car arrived and it actually has a 1.4 engine ,with the rectangular metal rocker cover.
The gearbox is in the boot and is in bits , pulled apart in a chaotic way.
Diff bearings shagged and i guess there is more.

*I noticed some Berlingo have this engine and some P205 cars , do these gearboxes bolt up to this early P206?

[alpine]

dont know if ma box fits to 206 however the sounds like you might have the same motor as the 1.4 Berlingo.
I believe the weakness in the Berlingo Ma box are the bearing bearings , as above, I would not trust a s/h box that I had not driven especially from a Berlingo, which will have done hard work and have a lower diff ratio I expect.... the AX box is also an MA can be made to work with bell housing modified to fit the crank angle sensor, but AX are scarce

bearing kits available from Fast bearing supplies in UK

[Berridale]

So the MA type gearbox from a 1.4 P206 will bolt up to the 1.6 P206?
Disregarding the gear ratios.