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    Default Citroen ID 19 WANTED WATER PUMP + mounting block

    I am trying to fix my Citroen ID 19.
    My water pump and mounting block is heavily corroded. So I think I need a better one.
    Please let me know If you have them.
    Thanks.

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    I have seen them a lot worse!

    More importantly, what is the condition of the impeller?

    Roger

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    Hello, Roger
    All mechanical part and impeller( I believe this is the one turn the water and push into engine) Are perfect!
    And I really think I need mounting block. I have not be able to remove it yet. Bottom side of mounting is stuck(probably some sealing and corrosion) I can move it so I think it is matter of time. But I don`t want to scratch and dent engine mounting surface so much.

    Who would have it? Should I contact Shane?

    Is broken casting part repairable by JB weld or something similar?

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    The only pump I have has a corroded/holed impeller It's corroded around the hose connections too (but not as badly as yours).

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    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


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    Hello, Shane! Actually pump might be able to used but mounting block might not be... Do you have this part? And about thermostat, is this generic part available from any part shop?
    I would like to visit your work shop one day I am familiar with Ballarat.

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    THe one I have here is still attached to a head. I have no idea if I'll be able to get it off ( the bolts may well be spherical lumps of rust). I'll check the wreck, but it'll likely be far worse than yours. Other than the broken bit (how much is broken away ?) the base you have is quite good (there is still a lot of "alloy thickness" there.

    Nulon used to have a really good cooling system guide. They said housings will not corode as above if you refit the hoses with a "form-a-gasket" substance. Possibly loctite 515 would be good for this too. Or any "silicone" gasket maker. You see if stops coolant sitting trapped between the hose and alloy idefinately by sealing the area from coolant (makes sense).

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    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
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    Yes let me know If you find a reasonable one. Thanks KAZ So what gasket sealant do you use?
    Last edited by caparobertsan; 8th February 2012 at 09:00 AM.

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    Default waterpump mounting block

    Are you kfujii ? My brother has emailed me that I might be able to help you as I have some parts for early ID's. I'd say you could probably rebuild the waterpump. The small pipe could be replaced with the use of welding. The impeller usually corrodes so you need to work with what you have and parts that you can locate. As you know, Shane's thread on the restoring of his ID is brilliant mainly because he makes it easy to follow. So yes, seek Shane's advice and I might be able to help you with parts. I do have a very good mounting block for your waterpump andis it you that needs a spring for your startermotor as I will probably be able to find one. I think that I have your email if you are kfujii. Michael

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    Default Made Water pump manifold retaing nuts

    I have made some retaining nuts for water pump manifold. It is made of stainless steel. It is not structural part so they should be strong enough.
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    I think you may want to be a bit careful about the Galvanic pair you are creating there. Have a look at any boat with stainless fittings on alloy spars. You will want to consider isolation of the metals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    I think you may want to be a bit careful about the Galvanic pair you are creating there. Have a look at any boat with stainless fittings on alloy spars. You will want to consider isolation of the metals.
    Do you think, it will bond together??? I will use something my friend gave to me. That is for bolt and nuts so I can remove the, easily. I will ask him. But original bolt is very badly rusted.


    mmmm I will think about it.

    Thanks for the warning

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    i have an early water pump but no mounting block

    you should be able to reuse the mounting block with a few repairs

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    Really, What is the condition of pump? Is that for sale?

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    the pump appears to be good, i will try to put up some pics tomorrow, or send me a private message with your email

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    Hello, have you received my private message? Message system of this site is very complicated....

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